[Rosi M]

(Original post by Politricks)
Agree with everything you said in your post, however, the last time I flicked through an English translation of the Qur'an, it talked about how to beat a wife who doesn't listen to the authority of a husband, just saying.

Typical. Haha is that all you people have? Seriously do you guys get paid to do this? No, really tell me..

The verse is referring to a wife who is showing ill conduct which could mean being flirtatious with other men, or doing something AGAINST the teachings of Islam.
For Islam tells a wife to not listen to her husband if he asks her to do something against islamic teachings.
He is asked to a) Talk to her. Explain what she is doing is WRONG.
Hopefully this will make her change. It may make her realise what she is doing is wrong. If not then
b) Don't sleep with her. Sleep on a separate bed.
Maybe this will make her change
If not, and if the man thinks that by using some force it will make her change he is allowed to tap her (YES TAP). When people asked one of the companions of Prophet Muhammad what this means he said it should be as though you have tapped your wife using a finger sized wooden piece which is known as a Miswaak. Used by the Prophet to brush teeth. He used to keep it in his upper pocket thats how small it is.
IF a man feels by tapping his wife he can show that he is upset with her and he feels that this will have an effect on her, he may. If not, then DONT.

A Hadith reported by Aisha (Prophet’s wife): “The messenger of God (p.b.u.h.) has never beaten a wife nor a servant, and has never hit anything with his hand except when fighting in the cause of God.”

[Rosi M]

(Original post by maskofsanity)
I don't like to see people wearing a niqab/burka, i.e. covering their face in public. Guess I should move to France...

I dont like you..
yeah guess you should go buddy

[TheHighestCalibre]

women are dirty. the sooner everyone realises this the better.

[ednut]

i agree i also had very bad experience with young muslim males as well during my period at school, the types that i met were very arrogant and materialistic

[No Man]

(Original post by Rosi M)
No we dont think that
We wear it to safeguard our modesty from filthy men who have nothing better to do but stare, harass and rape women.
We wear it because we believe our beauty isn't for the entire world to see and not to be displayed. It is OURS.

You've just proved my point.

Showing your face (and not the rest of your body) doesn't make a woman more liable of being harassed/raped/stared at.

[Rosi M]

(Original post by No Man)
You've just proved my point.

Showing your face (and not the rest of your body) doesn't make a woman more liable of being harassed/raped/stared at.

If there was a freak rapist sat preying on women as they pass by, its highly unlikely a veiled woman would be attacked.
The man would show no interest in a woman who is dressed in loose clothing and hair covered or even face covered.
Why would he?
When hes got other women to look at..

[SnoochToTheBooch]

(Original post by Flyteryder)
I don't like to admit it, but when I see somebody who is obviously Muslim, I get a bit scared and take a dislike to them. If I see Muslim women in burkas in public or a lot of Muslims in an area I walk through which is all Muslim, I get uneasy. I don't know why, as I know that the vast majority of them are nice, normal people. My heart jumped last week when about 20 Muslim women all wearing burkas streamed out of a train at St Pancras Station, and I felt a bit scared until the all left.

I think I react like this because my experience with Muslim students at school has been horrific (think they're hard, think the world owes them something due to being Muslim or Asian, homophobic, violent etc), and I can't get over this for other Muslims. When I see somebody who looks obviously Muslim I have an instant prejudice against them because I think they'll be like the Muslims I know, as well as the majority of modern terrorist attacks in the UK coming from Muslims, which only heightens my instant feeling towards them.

Do you feel like this?

I think a hell of a lot of people are like this but don't admit it. The thing is that it doesn't make sense to assume they're all like that because of a few incidents.

[Ferrero Rocher]

(Original post by Rosi M)
If there was a freak rapist sat preying on women as they pass by, its highly unlikely a veiled woman would be attacked.
The man would show no interest in a woman who is dressed in loose clothing and hair covered or even face covered.
Why would he?
When hes got other women to look at..

Don't be too sure.

[ThisIsTheLife]

I have an instant prejudice, but I don't think that there's "no good reason" for it - I have plenty of good reasons for it.

[umarrehman187]

bascially your a ****bag

[Scumbaggio]

I had no opinion about muslims until I was about 18 then I worked with a muslim girl in hijab.

She pretty much exemplified what is wrong with them, her opinion/beliefs were apparently fact and she took every opportunity to bully the other 'muslim' girls in out team into conforming.

If you have ever experienced Eid in Manchester then you might well have been racially abused for being white.

Their homophobia and treatment of women is also totally unacceptable to me.

White Muslims actually make me feel ill.

[Rosi M]

(Original post by Scumbaggio)
I had no opinion about muslims until I was about 18 then I worked with a muslim girl in hijab.

She pretty much exemplified what is wrong with them, her opinion/beliefs were apparently fact and she took every opportunity to bully the other 'muslim' girls in out team into conforming.

If you have ever experienced Eid in Manchester then you might well have been racially abused for being white.

Their homophobia and treatment of women is also totally unacceptable to me.

White Muslims actually make me feel ill.

And your generalisation makes me feel ill..

[Formerly Helpful_C]

No, I have a reason for disliking them - they're Muslim.

Yesterday, I saw a girl, who was no older than 13, wearing a burqa in Bond Street. I was completely taken aback by it.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by Rosi M)
If there was a freak rapist sat preying on women as they pass by, its highly unlikely a veiled woman would be attacked.
The man would show no interest in a woman who is dressed in loose clothing and hair covered or even face covered.
Why would he?
When hes got other women to look at..

As opposed to what sort of rapist? A normal one? A nice one? What?

[philistine]

No, because I am not a bigoted piece of ****.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by Amaira)
This is jokes.. Really.. Why would u hate muslims.. What seperates us muslims from anyone else.. A name? A culture? A colour? Or beliefs? Its a good job im open minded and dont really gva toss.. If someones good to you, your good with them theres good and bad in every religion. A religion doesnt determine what you are like as a individual. An to the people with issues why dont u have a flick through an english transalation of the quran an find me the part it says we harm others or that wer terrorists.. Cos last time i chekd i got taught to respect evry other religion.. And nothing is for sure what makes your judgement so accurate? Becos sum news reporter sed so.. More fool you eh? Theres good n bad in everyone.. Unless you havent been.caused any physical harm or abuse of me dont judge me cosa aint given nobody any xcuse to call me as a muslim a threat.. Wer all human! This was pathetic

I don't like Muslims because of the way the community segregates itself from the rest of the populace. Why do Muslims exclusively congregate in certain regions e.g. Bradford, Birmingham, Leicester, East London and Luton? All they do is replace the indigenous population, and, then, use tags like "multicultural" to create the illusion of assimilation, whilst at the same time eroding the culture of the host nation.

Islam is a cancer that needs to be removed from society.


[Inb4 define Britain's 'culture' and 'indigenous']

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by AkaJetson)
So many stupid people in this country. Now I actually do believe educational standards have sharply fallen.

Sorry, my anecdote is an indication of my intelligence? Nope. My initial line is an indication? Nope.

How exactly have you gauged my intelligence? Oh, that's right, you haven't. Interesting. What you've done - very cleverly - is basically said, 'anyone who doesn't agree with me is unintelligent'. So, not only have you labelled us (the other person and myself), you've managed to pay yourself a compliment by saying that the 'standards' have dropped. Ergo, you're more intelligent that us!

Bravo. False, but bravo.

[Phantom Lord]

(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Sorry, my anecdote is an indication of my intelligence? Nope. My initial line is an indication? Nope.

How exactly have you gauged my intelligence? Oh, that's right, you haven't. Interesting. What you've done - very cleverly - is basically said, 'anyone who doesn't agree with me is unintelligent'. So, not only have you labelled us (the other person and myself), you've managed to pay yourself a compliment by saying that the 'standards' have dropped. Ergo, you're more intelligent that us!

Bravo. False, but bravo.

Anyone who says "No, I have a reason for disliking them - they're Muslim" is a ****ing idiot.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

(Original post by AkaJetson)
Anyone who says "No, I have a reason for disliking them - they're Muslim" is a ****ing idiot.

Is this a fact, or an opinion? To me, it sounds like an opinion.

Once again, though, you're trying to create a divide between my opinion and your opinion. If I didn't know any better, I would say that you're trying to delegitimise my view.

Do you know what that makes you? A fascist.

Lovely.

[Scumbaggio]

(Original post by AkaJetson)
So many stupid people in this country. Now I actually do believe educational standards have sharply fallen.

If it makes you feel better to think of me as some kind of dribbling, moronic racist then please do