[prog2djent]

I'd say become a lone Crusader.

Or go **** up Africa some more with a bunch of ******* missionaries?

[Cake Faced Kid.]

If God knows all your thoughts, surely he would know how devoted you were to him despite working with 'devil corporations'

How about a clay pot maker, or a fisherman.

[CurlyBen]

If you're going to write off whole sectors for fairly spurious reasons (most of your examples are in no way applicable to every business in the sector) then your best bet is probably to become a hermit.

[ufo2012]

(Original post by ebam_uk)
Nope its more that Jesus came as well for everyone... so your career shouldnt define if you are Christian or not..

So Jesus came for the publican too?

Well in that case OP, open a pub/bar.

If you still don't want to be a vicar that is.


Or you could do both maybe?

[Architecture-er]

(Original post by MTR_10)
So, what careers today are suitable for Christians and don't rely on lowering moral standards, lieing, cheating and general sleaze in order to succeed?

Banking and financial services is out of the question as it relies on greed, retail too because shops are open on Sunday and many companies refuse to allow people the day off for worship, insurance is the same as financial services in this regard and industry is practically non-existant. Charity work is great but how to pay the bills? Healthcare is not for everyone, and besides even that sector and all public sector work is slowly being corrupted by private enterprise. Farming means having to work with the devil (corporations).

So what options are there for Christians today? and if you are a Christian, then which career are you hoping to pursue and how do you intend to survive in a world of cut throat competitiveness, hostility and selfishness.

I'm a chartered knife-blunter.

[jumpingjesusholycow]

(Original post by ebam_uk)
Nope its more that Jesus came as well for everyone... so your career shouldnt define if you are Christian or not..

I don't think that has any relevance to what the OP was asking for. He was asking for careers and jobs that'd be compatible with his Christian principles.

For example, large scale investment banking might not be a good choice for him, because the tools required to be successful in that career; ruthlessness and a disregard for people's livelihoods, are most likely contrary to his religious ethics.

You're doing a disservice to genuine Christians who actually follow a specific doctrine by diluting everything into a mulch of barely existent Christianity. But hey, I'm irreligious. If that's what you're after that's your business I suppose

[hannah60000]

(Original post by Brevillemonkey)
Certainly not any kind of scientist.

Funny that as some of History's scientist were Christian and scientist today are also Christian, many parts of since that line of with a Christian beliefs............

[hannah60000]

The question seems to have a ridiculing message behind it??

OP what was the purpose of your question, what are you really trying to say come on

[Brevillemonkey]

(Original post by hannah60000)
Funny that as some of History's scientist were Christian and scientist today are also Christian, many parts of since that line of with a Christian beliefs............

I don't understand what the last half of this means.

[beccac94]

(Original post by MTR_10)
Your suggestions are fine except there are so little opportunities in those areas.

Mechanic - Cars are now run by computers which requires electrical knowledge and expertise so only for people gifted in this area.

Carpentry - Most of the skill and work has been destroyed by industry meaning most carpenters are now merely labourers who couldn't give a damn and without sounding rude, aren't exactly your average Christian.

Craftsmanship is fine also, but only the niche areas have survived. Where once every door fitting would have required skill and care, it is now a case of 'offload from lorry, screw in place and repeat.

The point I am trying to make is how difficult it is to find any form of work which is compatible with Christian values.

As for big businesses; either you have never worked for one, or you aren't aware of what christian values are if you think the two are compatible. Big businesses are un-Christian.

I don't see what your problem is with farmers, if they own their own shop or sell to only local shops (like some do) then surely you wouldn't have to deal with so called "evil corporations" also many larger businesses aren't evil they donate lots of money to charity. I take it you don't shop in the likes of tesco or Asda then??

Also what I've put in bold is such a horrible thing to say its so rude and fairly snobbish a thing to say, especially the merely labourer bit. That is horrible and I would say rather unchristian of you. Also wasn't Jesus the son of a Carpenter??

I just think you should pick a job because its something that you feel passionate about and would enjoy and not because you believe your religion wouldn't accept it.

[mrsnicket]

I can't believe we are even humouring this guy.

[Chronist]

(Original post by MTR_10)


Big businesses are un-Christian.

Ask Ratzinger.

[Christianlady]

(Original post by MTR_10)
So, what careers today are suitable for Christians and don't rely on lowering moral standards, lieing, cheating and general sleaze in order to succeed?

Banking and financial services is out of the question as it relies on greed, retail too because shops are open on Sunday and many companies refuse to allow people the day off for worship, insurance is the same as financial services in this regard and industry is practically non-existent. Charity work is great but how to pay the bills? Healthcare is not for everyone, and besides even that sector and all public sector work is slowly being corrupted by private enterprise. Farming means having to work with the devil (corporations).

So what options are there for Christians today? and if you are a Christian, then which career are you hoping to pursue and how do you intend to survive in a world of cut throat competitiveness, hostility and selfishness.

Hello MTR,

Banking does have issues, but one can be a committed Christian and be a banker. One can be a committed Christian and be a politician as well. What is important in a career is one's integrity and values, making sure to conduct oneself in a way that aligns with the Word of God, no matter what others in the same career do/don't do.

There are some careers that cannot, however, align with God's Word, which includes prostitution and pornography. Both the Christian Old Testament and the Jewish Tanakh, as well as the Christian New Testament, emphasize the importance of sexual purity and sex being an important part of the relationship between a husband and wife. So, being a prostitute or making money in pornography are not occupations ideal for Christians.

Many Christians throughout the generations have been drawn to humanitarian services, including teaching and the medical field. Teaching is very much in line with both the Jewish Tanakh and the Christian Bible. The medical field is one that has grown since ancient times. Luke, for example, was a doctor. He seemed to be fascinated by Jesus' healing miracles, mentioning many of them in his letters/accounts about what Jesus said and did. Many Christians, both Catholics and Protestants, have started both universities and hospitals over the generations. Many groups, such as the Red Cross and the YMCA and AA, were founded by Christians as well.

Basically to answer your question, Christians can work in a vast variety of jobs. However, it is important that their personal lives align with the Word of God. Because of this, there are some jobs, predominately where sex/bodies are considered the merchandise, are not compatible with the Word of God.

Slavery, sad to say, was a "career" of some "Christians" a long time ago. However, thankfully many Christians understood the incompatibility of slavery of humans to humans with Jesus' teachings, and fought to make slavery illegal. The author of the song "Amazing Grace", John Newton, was a slave-trader until God rescued him from that horrible occupation and convicted him! (John Newton, by the way, didn't consider himself a Christian when he was involved in the slave trade.)

Good question

Peace and God bless you

[MTR_10]

(Original post by TheHighestCalibre)
The op is looking for an 'ethical' job, i can relate to what she wants and i am an atheist. I don't think wanting to work somewhere where people are generally nice and caring, do not back stab, manipulate, lie, cheat etc is really asking for 'society' to bend to 'extreme Christian values'. That is ridiculous.
Just because some, or even most people are selfish, disagreeable, vile arse holes who blight the lives of those around them and devote most of their time to their own selfish greed at the expense of others and the wider community/society, doesn't mean everyone is that way, or that this is 'Modern Life'. Horse crap. She's looking for an oasis in the desert which my be difficult to find but not impossible. Lots of people share these values, just because decent people are in the minority doesn't give you the right to dismiss them as annoyingly awkward and unreasonable lunatics who won't bend to the established world order of The Vile and Selfish Sociopathic ********. TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF.

Thank you.

[MTR_10]

(Original post by Cake Faced Kid.)
If God knows all your thoughts, surely he would know how devoted you were to him despite working with 'devil corporations'

How about a clay pot maker, or a fisherman.

Would love to do those occupations but there are no opportunities. Pots are made by machines or in sweat shops in third world countries. Fisherman must break their Christian values by forming partnerships with corporations and that inevitably involves un-Christian behaviour. I can't just go and fish and sell. First you need a license, then a business premise (see below), then a market. Corporations control the world so it is impossible (sadly).

(Original post by CurlyBen)
If you're going to write off whole sectors for fairly spurious reasons (most of your examples are in no way applicable to every business in the sector) then your best bet is probably to become a hermit.

I don't think that wanting an ethical foundation to my everyday existence is spurious.

(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
I don't think that has any relevance to what the OP was asking for. He was asking for careers and jobs that'd be compatible with his Christian principles.

For example, large scale investment banking might not be a good choice for him, because the tools required to be successful in that career; ruthlessness and a disregard for people's livelihoods, are most likely contrary to his religious ethics.

You're doing a disservice to genuine Christians who actually follow a specific doctrine by diluting everything into a mulch of barely existent Christianity. But hey, I'm irreligious. If that's what you're after that's your business I suppose

Thank you.

(Original post by hannah60000)
The question seems to have a ridiculing message behind it??

OP what was the purpose of your question, what are you really trying to say come on

That it has become impossible to succeed at work and form a career whilst retaining strong moral and Christian values.

[Cake Faced Kid.]

(Original post by MTR_10)
Would love to do those occupations but there are no opportunities. Pots are made by machines or in sweat shops in third world countries.

Nope, not always. My parents bought most of their plates and mugs from a clay crockery maker in Cornwall. Looks like you're building walls for yourself for no reason. Many devout Christians have normal jobs, I don't really see your problem.

[ufo2012]

(Original post by MTR_10)
So, what careers today are suitable for Christians and don't rely on lowering moral standards, lieing, cheating and general sleaze in order to succeed?

OP you don't seem to have liked my previous suggestions.

May I ask, what is the field that you are actually working towards (or may have already completed?) ?

[MTR_10]

(Original post by beccac94)
I don't see what your problem is with farmers, if they own their own shop or sell to only local shops (like some do) then surely you wouldn't have to deal with so called "evil corporations" also many larger businesses aren't evil they donate lots of money to charity. I take it you don't shop in the likes of tesco or Asda then??

Also what I've put in bold is such a horrible thing to say its so rude and fairly snobbish a thing to say, especially the merely labourer bit. That is horrible and I would say rather unchristian of you. Also wasn't Jesus the son of a Carpenter??

I just think you should pick a job because its something that you feel passionate about and would enjoy and not because you believe your religion wouldn't accept it.

Here is the problem;

a farmer owns some land which he uses to produce wheat and fresh produce which he relies on selling to the locals in order to survive. Big supermarket corporation comes along and offers the farmer x amount of cash to industrialise (genetically modified animals etc, crammed chicken cages etc) his farm to supply the corporation. Farmer declines the offer because the offer contradicts his Christian values. Corporation blackmails the farmer to sign the deal and stop trading with locals and has the local politicians and police in his back pocket also through blackmail. Corporation threatens to destroy the farm - kill the animals and burn the fields and house unless the deal is signed. Farmer has a choice between putting his family and livelihood at risk or signing the deal with the corporation, between two evils.

Another situation- Farmer wants to open a shop in the town centre. The land and property is all owned by a big corporate bank. Bank sets rent excessively high so that only other corporate chains can afford to trade there. Corporate bank offers a deal with the farmer which means he will be ruled and controlled by corporations. Farmer refuses and goes bankrupt. Farmer agrees and is at the mercy of the corporate bank - having to advertise their logo everywhere and give over all of his hard work to the executives. Despite working harder and harder under the corporations control, the Farmer becomes poorer and poorer until he struggles to feed his family.

People with good Christian values sink to the bottom in Western business practices.

Corporations control the world so it is impossible to not have to deal with them.

There is no point giving back to society through charity if you taking 100X more from them in the first place.

There is nothing snobbish about it at all. The reduction of humans to mere labour is a great tragedy. Yes, Jesus was a carpenter. A carpenter is quite different to a labourer though. A carpenter is someone who produces something of craft, with skill and commitment and love. A labourer is someone working under the mercy of an industrialist who has little respect for work or values (the industrialist that is, not the labourer). Sadly, the entire world is being controlled by corporations who are reducing all humans to machines for labour and objects to exploit. It's so sad indeed. Especially when life is so special and sacred, but I guess people don't really care about that in the pursuit of wealth right?

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[SnoochToTheBooch]

crash test dummy?
scarecrow?
village idiot?