[Beebumble]

(Original post by SleepySheep)
Rofl, no

Nice to see peoples medical conditions amuses you.

If I knew them well enough yes.

[RandZul'Zorander]

I actually need ask 1 qualifier....are asking about pre-op or post-op or either? Also I don't understand why some people are saying now. Purely out of curiosity can someone explain to me why they wouldn't?

[TitchTheAntiHero]

yes,
I identify as pansexual, gender to me is not an issue.
If someone identifies as a female but has a penis, to me they are a female, and I'm attracted to females and males,
so you know

[Mad Vlad]

If it was the "right" person, probably.

[oodlesofpoodles]

Yes, it wouldn't matter to me at all

[Jorddds]

No it seems like a complicated process that for completely selfish reasons, I wouldnt want to get into.

However if I was in a long-term relationship with said person, who came out transgender to me, and I had strong feelings for them, then Id really have to give it some thought to carry on the relationship, and if I didnt, of course Id be there every step of the way for them as a friend.

[Hype en Ecosse]

(Original post by Cmmah)
I'm talking about a woman going out with a man who used to be a woman.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, then you're talking about transsexual, NOT transgender. There's a big difference between the two!

A person's gender is not defined by their genitalia. That is a person's sex. Sex is between the legs. Gender is in the head. A transgender would be a male who identifies as a woman, or a female who identifies as a man. A transsexual is one who has received medical intervention to change their sex, either surgery or hormone replacement therapy.

Anyway, as a pan man, yes I would. A transgender or a transsexual, doesn't matter to me.

(Original post by TitchTheAntiHero)
yes,
I identify as pansexual, gender to me is not an issue.
If someone identifies as a female but has a penis, to me they are a female, and I'm attracted to females and males,
so you know

I have to disagree with you there. If they have a penis, they are most certainly male. That, however, does not mean they're not a woman. I disagree for the reasons above: male/female describing sex, man/woman describing gender.

[fallen_acorns]

(Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, then you're talking about transsexual, NOT transgender. There's a big difference between the two!

A person's gender is not defined by their genitalia. That is a person's sex. Sex is between the legs. Gender is in the head. A transgender would be a male who identifies as a woman, or a female who identifies as a man. A transsexual is one who has received medical intervention to change their sex, either surgery or hormone replacement therapy.

Anyway, as a pan man, and yes I would. A transgender or a transsexual, doesn't matter to me.



I have to disagree with you there. If they have a penis, they are most certainly male. That, however, does not mean they're not a woman. I disagree for the reasons above: male/female describing sex, man/woman describing gender.

on a medical basis, you are correct - transgender+transexual, mean exactly what you have just described..

however in common usage, transgender, or trans/trans* is used as an umbrella term for lots of different groups, + most people, even after sugery, prefer to be called transgender, then transexual these days

[kidomo]

(Original post by timeofflight)
I read this first as "a triangular person". I think I need some sleep.

same! 2am I'm gone to bed whiles reading Sherlock Holmes

[Hype en Ecosse]

(Original post by fallen_acorns)
on a medical basis, you are correct - transgender+transexual, mean exactly what you have just described..

however in common usage, transgender, or trans/trans* is used as an umbrella term for lots of different groups, + most people, even after sugery, prefer to be called transgender, then transexual these days

Hmm, I wasn't aware of this, thank you! I always interpreted trans* as the umbrella for transsexual+transgender (would transvestite fall under that umbrella?), but wasn't aware of the preference for transgender. I find the other two uses are more descriptive and more useful as language, though.

[Hylean]

(Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
Hmm, I wasn't aware of this, thank you! I always interpreted trans* as the umbrella for transsexual+transgender (would transvestite fall under that umbrella?), but wasn't aware of the preference for transgender. I find the other two uses are more descriptive and more useful as language, though.

Not necessarily, as one can be a transvestite (wearing the other sex's/gender's clothing for sexual pleasure) without being transgendered. The same goes for cross-dressers.

[fallen_acorns]

(Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
Hmm, I wasn't aware of this, thank you! I always interpreted trans* as the umbrella for transsexual+transgender (would transvestite fall under that umbrella?), but wasn't aware of the preference for transgender. I find the other two uses are more descriptive and more useful as language, though.

mm they are, but because of the old 'medical' assosiations, the word transexual, seems to be less and less used...

but i agree with you, it does provide a good distinction between sex+gender, and although fairly rare, there are some transgender people who dont feel dsyphoric, + are happy being female, but in a male body, for exsample...

[ironandwine]

i consider myself pan-sexual, so yes.

[Hype en Ecosse]

(Original post by Hylean)
Not necessarily, as one can be a transvestite (wearing the other sex's/gender's clothing for sexual pleasure) without being transgendered. The same goes for cross-dressers.

Oh, no, that's not what I meant at all. I'm aware that someone can be a transvestite while being cisgender, but I was thinking would trans* = sexual+gender+vestite, but I get it now. trans* meaning transgender in a broad sense.

[cl_steele]

hetrosexual male, no. Wouldnt be able to get over the fact they were actually a dude...

[miser]

I don't mind to do it in principle, it's just I find it difficult imagining being attracted to a person that was previously a man. If I was genuinely attracted to them I'd have no problem with it, but nobody can control what they're attracted (and not attracted) to, and I have a feeling that it would unnerve me on some level, interfering with how I would feel about them.

[fallen_acorns]

(Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
Oh, no, that's not what I meant at all. I'm aware that someone can be a transvestite while being cisgender, but I was thinking would trans* = sexual+gender+vestite, but I get it now. trans* meaning transgender in a broad sense.

serriously, dont worry a huge amount - there is no definitave guide to all these terms, alot are new and still un sorted+ diferent groups of people will use diferent terms.. and be comfortable with diferent things

the only golden rule is: if a term your using is offending someone, stop using it..

[fallen_acorns]

(Original post by cl_steele)
hetrosexual male, no. Wouldnt be able to get over the fact they were actually a dude...

* they were never a dude..

[RandZul'Zorander]

(Original post by cl_steele)
hetrosexual male, no. Wouldnt be able to get over the fact they were actually a dude...

But...they wouldn't be 'actually a dude'....they would be a woman, and female...

[Jorddds]

(Original post by timeofflight)
I read this first as "a triangular person". I think I need some sleep.

NO QUESTION I love me some triangular peeps.