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  1. Julii92's Avatar
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    Combining forces
    A particle of mass m moves in a straight line on a horizontal surface under the influence of horizontal forces (2mx, -m)*, (m, mx), (mx, 2mx). The particle has an acceleration of 2ms-2. Find the two possibe values of x.

    *This is in vector notation

    Using F=ma, the magnitude of the resultant force on the particle is 2m. I then tried to find the magnitudes of the component forces mentioned above, and equate them to 2m to find the value of x. I got:

    4m2x2 + m2 + m2 +m2x2 + m2x2 + 4m2x2 = 4m2 ( I removed all the square root signs and squared the 2m to make the calculation easier)

    However I end up with 5x2=1, with x=1/root5. Apparantly the answer is +-(1/3). Can anyone tell me where I went wrong?
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    Re: Combining forces
    (Original post by Julii92)
    A particle of mass m moves in a straight line on a horizontal surface under the influence of horizontal forces (2mx, -m)*, (m, mx), (mx, 2mx). The particle has an acceleration of 2ms-2. Find the two possibe values of x.

    *This is in vector notation

    Using F=ma, the magnitude of the resultant force on the particle is 2m. I then tried to find the magnitudes of the component forces mentioned above, and equate them to 2m to find the value of x. I got:

    4m2x2 + m2 + m2 +m2x2 + m2x2 + 4m2x2 = 4m2 ( I removed all the square root signs and squared the 2m to make the calculation easier)

    However I end up with 5x2=1, with x=1/root5. Apparantly the answer is +-(1/3). Can anyone tell me where I went wrong?
    Is there a diagram given?

    I don't understand the meaning of (2mx, -m)*, (m, mx), (mx, 2mx), can you type it in the way it is written in the question, using LaTex?
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    Re: Combining forces
    (Original post by Julii92)
    A particle of mass m moves in a straight line on a horizontal surface under the influence of horizontal forces (2mx, -m)*, (m, mx), (mx, 2mx). The particle has an acceleration of 2ms-2. Find the two possibe values of x.

    *This is in vector notation
    In vector notation these can not be horizontal forces when m>0
    I assume the resultant force is.

    Using F=ma, the magnitude of the resultant force on the particle is 2m. I then tried to find the magnitudes of the component forces mentioned above, and equate them to 2m to find the value of x. I got:
    THe resultant force in your vector notation: (m+3mx, -m+3mx)
    this will be horizontal, when:
    a) -m+3mx=0 for x>=0
    b) -m -3mx=0 for x<0
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    Re: Combining forces
    (Original post by ztibor)
    In vector notation these can not be horizontal forces when m>0
    I assume the resultant force is.



    THe resultant force in your vector notation: (m+3mx, -m+3mx)
    this will be horizontal, when:
    a) -m+3mx=0 for x>=0
    b) -m -3mx=0 for x<0
    Thanks, got the right answer now.
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