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  1. TosinFrench's Avatar
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    Miixed Sex in the same room
    Im going to university in September 2013 and there are a lot of things that i have to consider at the moment like accomodation and getting a job and other stuff. For accomodation, im thinking of sharing an en-suite room with my boyfriend. Would the university allow this or would they be okay with it but have some reservations about it?
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    This isn't Saudi Arabia, (so not in principle no)

    Plenty of universities provide accomodation for families/ couples or two people sharing a room, but it depends on whether the room is designed to accomodate families/couples or two people sharing or not.

    If it is not family accomodation, or it is designed as a single room, or he is not also a student at that university, they will almost certainly say no, in which case you'd be better finding a private let.

    Edit: Presumably the neg is from someone who would wish to import sex-segregation customs from Saudi Arabia? Well, you really showed me that the way the Saudis do things is definitely the preferred way to go.

    Further edit: Wow, more than one neg? The only thing I can see there that's even remotely controversial is the Saudi thing, but sorry to say it, if you prefer universities which assign students their accomodation the way they do it in Saudi Arabia and to ban mixing genders with anyone you are unrelated to or married to, perhaps you should really move there or a country with similar customs. I notice you didn't neg the OP though who on the face of it is intending to live with their partner 'in sin' as you religionists would put it.
    Last edited by marcusfox; 02-07-2012 at 16:39.
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    As far as I'm aware you can't just pick a room, rather you get allocated what the uni give you...but in either case, there's a 99.99% chance they won't let you.
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    Unless you are in couples accommodation (and as it's a limited supply, it usually goes to married couples and those with children first), then the university won't allow it, unfortunately. Normally they'll say that someone can stay for a certain number of nights per week (2 at my uni) and any more than that is classed as subletting and is therefore verboten.
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    Do you actually need to tell them? I guess a single room may be too crampt for the 2 of you, but otherwise they aren't really going to know (unless you have particularly annoying neighbours).
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    What happens if you and your boyfriend split up.

    That would be hugely awkward
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    (Original post by callum9999)
    Do you actually need to tell them? I guess a single room may be too crampt for the 2 of you, but otherwise they aren't really going to know (unless you have particularly annoying neighbours).
    If he's going to be living there, I think they will figure it out pretty quickly.
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    If he's going to be living there, I think they will figure it out pretty quickly.
    That would surely depend on the university? I know if I did it while in my halls no-one would have noticed. The neighbours in the same flat would of course but the university wouldn't.
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    Well a lot of universities only offer accommodation for a single person, otherwise its family accommodation, and as previously mentioned that usually goes to couples with kids. In addition to this, a lot of the accommodation is single sex flats, where you would be sharing a living space etc. with all girls (if the halls are structured in this way, it depends on the university). It's very unlikely, you get accommodation offered to you, you can put preferences but a lot of the time you wont get your first choice. In cases where its shared rooms, again its single sex. You don't have very many options for doing it through the university halls. If I were you I would go for private accommodation, look at places like UNITE students accommodation and other student accommodation sites, they are more likely to suit your needs. That is, if you two are sure you are going to be together, I wouldn't be looking to essentially move in together... you'll meet a lot of new people at university. Anyway, who says you will both get into the same university? Lots to think about

    hope this helps!
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    (Original post by OSharp)
    What happens if you and your boyfriend split up.

    That would be hugely awkward
    This.
    You might feel that you guys will stay together no matter what, but it's best to play it safe.
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    That would surely depend on the university? I know if I did it while in my halls no-one would have noticed. The neighbours in the same flat would of course but the university wouldn't.
    Is there no warden/porter/security person responsible for your halls then?

    Where I was they had a list along with photos of resident students and one of their responsibilities was to stop and challenge any unnacompanied 'outsider' who they happened to see there to make sure they weren't up to no good (read: burglarising halls).

    Now, even if he is always accompanied when he goes out, this is probably only going to be fine for a short while as it takes time for all 100/200/300 faces on the list to be recognised and memorised and reconciled with an actual person in the brain, but sooner or later they're going to notice there is someone living at the hall who isn't on their list and they're going to be challenged to provide some sort of student ID.

    So unless he stays in her room most of the time and only comes out rarely to pretend he's just visiting for the weekend, I don't think it's going to work.

    If they get discovered, the worst case scenario being is that she is expelled from the halls for what will almost certainly be a serious and flagrant breach of what is written in the accomodation T&C.
    Last edited by marcusfox; 02-07-2012 at 14:24.
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    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Is there no warden/porter/security person responsible for your halls then?

    Where I was they had a list along with photos of resident students and one of their responsibilities was to stop and challenge any unnacompanied 'outsider' who they happened to see there to make sure they weren't up to no good (read: burglarising halls).

    Now, even if he is always accompanied when he goes out, this is probably only going to be fine for a short while as it takes time for all 100/200/300 faces on the list to be recognised and memorised and reconciled with an actual person in the brain, but sooner or later they're going to notice there is someone living at the hall who isn't on their list and they're going to be challenged to provide some sort of student ID.

    So unless he stays in her room most of the time and only comes out rarely to pretend he's just visiting for the weekend, I don't think it's going to work.
    where did you live :confused:

    op it is unlikely that they will give you a room to share but you could just practically live in one of your rooms at most universities or you could privately rent a house if you could find some other people on the internet or something.

    in my flat this year there was a boy that actually moved in with his girlfriend, because his house contract ended early. noone except for us noticed.
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    If you get a single room then you're not supposed to, no.
    In first year we had a guy in our flat who pretty much moved his girlfriend in and then she subletted her other room elsewhere on campus - which is actually two breeches of the accommodation contract in one. We didn't mind much really as long as she didn't get in our way, but when she started having like 8 of her friends round and taking over our kitchen when her boyfriend was out, despite us saying that we didn't think it was right as she technically didn't live with us, we soon got annoyed and informed the university. I believe they were then offered the opportunity for her to stay as long as double the rent on the room was paid, or she could move out. She stayed, so assume they paid double rent even though she did have another room on campus, so they were paying the same to have less space.

    If you have nice flatmates and your boyfriend doesn't piss anyone off, then you could theoretically get away with it, but strictly speaking you're not allowed in most cases.
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    where did you live :confused:

    op it is unlikely that they will give you a room to share but you could just practically live in one of your rooms at most universities or you could privately rent a house if you could find some other people on the internet or something.

    in my flat this year there was a boy that actually moved in with his girlfriend, because his house contract ended early. noone except for us noticed.
    Wantage Hall, University of Reading. Both entrances to the hall were covered by security cameras and if going into the hall without using a key, which meant using the front entrance, you had to walk right past the porter's lodge who would have stopped you if he didn't recognise you.

    Otherwise you'd have had scrotes walking in and walking out with laptops, which did happen on occasion, but only because they'd followed closely behind students using the back gate before it closed, and several times students had held the gate open for said scrotes as they followed, assuming they were also a student returning to their accomodation.
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    I don't think any unis would allow this in halls/flats on campus, but my boyfriend and I both asked if it would be possible to be allocated rooms near each other. It worked, we had rooms right next door to each other and spent half the year in one room and half in the other. Maybe that could work out for you?
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    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Wantage Hall, University of Reading. Both entrances to the hall were covered by security cameras and if going into the hall without using a key, which meant using the front entrance, you had to walk right past the porter's lodge who would have stopped you if he didn't recognise you.

    Otherwise you'd have had scrotes walking in and walking out with laptops, which did happen on occasion, but only because they'd followed closely behind students using the back gate before it closed, and several times students had held the gate open for said scrotes as they followed, assuming they were also a student returning to their accomodation.
    why would you walk in without a key? In my halls there was no door it was possible to get in without a key (unless like you said closely following someone with one) and they managed perfectly fine :confused: and security cameras are only really looked at closely if something happens which requires them.
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Is there no warden/porter/security person responsible for your halls then?

    Where I was they had a list along with photos of resident students and one of their responsibilities was to stop and challenge any unnacompanied 'outsider' who they happened to see there to make sure they weren't up to no good (read: burglarising halls).

    Now, even if he is always accompanied when he goes out, this is probably only going to be fine for a short while as it takes time for all 100/200/300 faces on the list to be recognised and memorised and reconciled with an actual person in the brain, but sooner or later they're going to notice there is someone living at the hall who isn't on their list and they're going to be challenged to provide some sort of student ID.

    So unless he stays in her room most of the time and only comes out rarely to pretend he's just visiting for the weekend, I don't think it's going to work.

    If they get discovered, the worst case scenario being is that she is expelled from the halls for what will almost certainly be a serious and flagrant breach of what is written in the accomodation T&C.
    No there wasn't - I assumed it was the norm not to? In which case I agree with you then.
    Last edited by callum9999; 02-07-2012 at 14:51.
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    (Original post by nuttygirl)
    I don't think any unis would allow this in halls/flats on campus, but my boyfriend and I both asked if it would be possible to be allocated rooms near each other. It worked, we had rooms right next door to each other and spent half the year in one room and half in the other. Maybe that could work out for you?
    That's another thing, this year two of my flatmates were in a relationship and they had rooms in the same flat that were next door to each other and they both had their own rooms during the day etc. and then just slept in one or the other.
    One was next to mine and if I had an exam or whatever they'd stay in the other room so the TV didn't disturb me etc., they were well nice about it.
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    why would you walk in without a key? In my halls there was no door it was possible to get in without a key (unless like you said closely following someone with one) and they managed perfectly fine :confused: and security cameras are only really looked at closely if something happens which requires them.
    Why would you walk in without a key? Why not? Convenience I suppose. It was the front entrance, it was open from 0800-2300. Still needed keys to get into rooms, but often people left those unlocked on trips to the toilet/shower/mates room.

    Managed fine too, but doesn't mean you ignore the security aspect. I've seen halls at Lincoln uni that have a football stadium style floor to ceiling aluminium turnstile gate and bars, and if you want to buzz all eight of your mates in after hours, you need to swipe your ID card at the gate, one person goes through the turnstile, swipe card again, next person goes through, repeat process one at a time.
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    Re: Miixed Sex in the same room
    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Why would you walk in without a key? Why not? Convenience I suppose. It was the front entrance, it was open from 0800-2300. Still needed keys to get into rooms, but often people left those unlocked on trips to the toilet/shower/mates room.

    Managed fine too, but doesn't mean you ignore the security aspect. I've seen halls at Lincoln uni that have a football stadium style floor to ceiling aluminium turnstile gate and bars, and if you want to buzz all eight of your mates in after hours, you need to swipe your ID card at the gate, one person goes through the turnstile, swipe card again, next person goes through, repeat process one at a time.
    I meant if you wern't supposed to live there and I was referring to the couple that moved the boyfriend in managing fine even though there was no way to get in without a key. sorry for not being clear
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