[tdkr]

as Sheffield is a RG/Red Brick, my research has shown that the uni has produced a lot of well known figures in the legal world from partners at MC firms to judges/QCs with students securing TCs at top firms, BUT seeing as it is ranked quite low in league tables for the past few years is Sheffield still a good uni to study law for future prospects ?

honest and truthful answers/opinions please.

[Spyro91]

I have just finished studying Law at Sheffield and have a MC TC. Furthermore, a friend in my year got 2 MC offers. Yes Sheffield never seems to do as well as it should in the rankings but despite this employers still like Sheffield, we have plenty of large international firms come to our law fair and work with us throughout the year.

[tdkr]

(Original post by Spyro91)
I have just finished studying Law at Sheffield and have a MC TC. Furthermore, a friend in my year got 2 MC offers. Yes Sheffield never seems to do as well as it should in the rankings but despite this employers still like Sheffield, we have plenty of large international firms come to our law fair and work with us throughout the year.

congrats where have you got the TC at ?

[jacketpotato]

Whether a uni is "good" or not is relative. I know a number of fellow MC trainees who studied law at Sheffield. However, there are fewer Sheffield grads than LSE/UCL/Manchester grads, and fewer LSE/UCL/Manchester grads than Oxbridge grads.

[Cristocracy]

Whether a uni is "good" or not is relative. I know a number of fellow MC trainees who studied law at Sheffield. However, there are fewer Sheffield grads than LSE/UCL/Manchester grads, and fewer LSE/UCL/Manchester grads than Oxbridge grads

True, but bear in mind that if you choose to be a Barrister, Sheffield produces the 4th-largest amount of barristers in the country, following Oxbridge and UCL

[tdkr]

WOOOO!!

[chelseafan]

Well that basically means league tables dont mean a thing. For 2013 Sheffield came 46th for law: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...sity-guide-law

[tdkr]

(Original post by chelseafan)
Well that basically means league tables dont mean a thing. For 2013 Sheffield came 46th for law: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/...sity-guide-law

pretty much yes. manchester and leeds (superb-established unis) came 37-38. sussex was ranked 19, i still didn't apply to them.

[scavo86]

I just graduated first in my year at the University of Leicester on the LLB, and I guess Leicester and Sheffield are comparable, so I am hoping Sheff is good enough for the MC although I want to head to the Bar.

[Cristocracy]

For 2013 Sheffield came 46th for law

I honestly think that ranking table is abit screwed. Yes, I've firmed Sheffield, but look at the firms that visit it's law fair, the amount of barristers it produces and general reputation as a university. I really dont think that particular ranking table does it any justice.

[tdkr]

(Original post by Cristocracy)
I honestly think that ranking table is abit screwed. Yes, I've firmed Sheffield, but look at the firms that visit it's law fair, the amount of barristers it produces and general reputation as a university. I really dont think that particular ranking table does it any justice.

i firmed sheff too see you there

i wonder which firms will be attending this year's fair..

[tdkr]

(Original post by scavo86)
I just graduated first in my year at the University of Leicester on the LLB, and I guess Leicester and Sheffield are comparable, so I am hoping Sheff is good enough for the MC although I want to head to the Bar.

i personally wouldn't put leicester on the same level as sheffield although that's not saying that leicester is bad in any way

[lulu_dudette]

(Original post by Cristocracy)
True, but bear in mind that if you choose to be a Barrister, Sheffield produces the 4th-largest amount of barristers in the country, following Oxbridge and UCL

Where did you get this stat from? I only ask because I'm about to graduate from Sheffield and am embarking on the marathon to become a barrister!

And yes. Sheffield is an EXCELLENT university and I've been more than happy with the teaching I've received in the Law School. Some of the lecturers are world experts in their fields so I can never understand why it fails to feature in law league tables.

Good job on firming Sheffield those who have. It's a wonderful university and I'm heartbroken to be leaving! Feel free to ask anything about law there and especially the exchange/study abroad options the law school offers.

[Cristocracy]

http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf Page 45

[chalks]

(Original post by Cristocracy)
http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf Page 45

That link doesn't seem to work - could you resend?

[tdkr]

(Original post by chalks)
That link doesn't seem to work - could you resend?

http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf

if that link still doesn't work, the link can be found on the first post of this thread and you just click on it -
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1961426

[jjarvis]

(Original post by tdkr)
http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf

if that link still doesn't work, the link can be found on the first post of this thread and you just click on it -
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1961426

The difference between Sheffield, Durham, Manchester, Newcastle, and Kings is one, or at most two, pupils. When the statistics are based on 460 pupils, and these are the data for one year, I'd suggest it's very unlikely that such a small difference is statistically significant.

The Oxford and Cambridge stats are revealing. Arguably so is the UCL stat (18 pupils)--but the difference between Sheffield, Durham, Manchester, Newcastle etc is very small indeed.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by jjarvis)
The difference between Sheffield, Durham, Manchester, Newcastle, and Kings is one, or at most two, pupils. When the statistics are based on 460 pupils, and these are the data for one year, I'd suggest it's very unlikely that such a small difference is statistically significant.

The Oxford and Cambridge stats are revealing. Arguably so is the UCL stat (18 pupils)--but the difference between Sheffield, Durham, Manchester, Newcastle etc is very small indeed.

Obviously the information will become more significant as more years' figures ae released.

What I think is interesting is the well known names that are missing and the lesser lights on there. It will be interesting to see if they turn out to be "regulars" or whether there are always some, but different, less renowned universities.

However my view is that anyone producing this sort of information about graduate destinations should also be publishing the same information limited to full-time students aged under 28. I think to much of the information that is helping VIth formers to make career decisions is data relating to mature and part-time students.

I think the bar figures might be quite shocking if limited to young full time students.

[jjarvis]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
Obviously the information will become more significant as more years' figures ae released.

What I think is interesting is the well known names that are missing and the lesser lights on there. It will be interesting to see if they turn out to be "regulars" or whether there are always some, but different, less renowned universities.

However my view is that anyone producing this sort of information about graduate destinations should also be publishing the same information limited to full-time students aged under 28. I think to much of the information that is helping VIth formers to make career decisions is data relating to mature and part-time students.

I think the bar figures might be quite shocking if limited to young full time students.

I agree. The big question is whether there are regulars. One or two very good students at KCL/Durham/Sheffield (say people who graduated first in their year, did a masters at Oxford or Cambridge) could easily convey a false impression.

And again, the information limited to full-time students under 28 would be rather revealing.

I know a few people who got pupillage before commencing the BPTC, but they have incredible academics, and often very good experience. I know a lot more people who are struggling--including people with firsts, some of them Oxbridge firsts, and who have masters degrees.

[Cristocracy]

The point is that a good uni like Sheffield / Liverpool can produce a significant amount of barristers as compared to the traditional 'law powerhouse unis' such as Notts/Bristol/Durham. Clearly, uni prestige is not as important as TSRians tend to think. In any case, even if it were the post-grad qualifications that helped the top Sheffield students achieve a pupillage, it still shows that such unis provide ample opportunity for one to succeed in the legal field.