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  1. jayjamine's Avatar
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    Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    Just working on my personal statement, I find it quite irritating how I'm the one paying the 9k a year and should be down to them to prove themselves! Ahh ;P

    Anyone else feel the same??
  2. TheSownRose's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    They do have to sell themselves to you in order to get you to pick them.
  3. Good bloke's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    Just working on my personal statement, I find it quite irritating how I'm the one paying the 9k a year and should be down to them to prove themselves! Ahh ;P

    Anyone else feel the same??
    Clearly, if it has reached the point where you are applying to study at a university, it has already sold itself to you. At this stage it is up to you to persuade the admissions team that your application, rather than that of your competitors, should result in an offer.
  4. jayjamine's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    Yeh I guess so, Its just frustrating with the whole personal statement thing, I mean we don't get to interview our lecturers before hand!
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    Just working on my personal statement, I find it quite irritating how I'm the one paying the 9k a year and should be down to them to prove themselves! Ahh ;P

    Anyone else feel the same??
    They do try to sell themselves, with flashy websites and shiny prospectuses etc. But by the time it comes to UCAS they've done the selling and you're making your choice.

    And why don't you feel you should need to sell yourself? Why on earth should it be assumed that you're good enough? There are so many applicants out there, it's impossible to take them all and they're not all up to the mark, why should it be assumed that you are without evidence?

    They don't need you or your 9k, they can have any of the other applicants if they want. At this stage they owe you nothing.

    we don't get to interview our lecturers before hand!
    Go to an open day, those are the lecturers there. You can ask any question you like.
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    Yeh I guess so, Its just frustrating with the whole personal statement thing, I mean we don't get to interview our lecturers before hand!
    The admissions tutors are qualified to make decisions on who to make offers to. Do you have skills and knowledge that would enable you to choose between lecturers based on an interview? I suspect not. In which case it isn't really worth worrying about, is it? You couldn't take advantage of the opportunity if it were given to you.
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    Jolly good thing we don't get to interview our lecturers, or I might have packed the whole uni thing in and become a hermit.
  8. doggyfizzel's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    It happens in plenty of situations with people being offered scholarships, where one uni's is trying to attract one student. Who needs who, who is doing the other a favour in most cases should be indicated by the one paying £9000.
  9. canŵio's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    umm... i quite enjoyed writing my personal statement
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    Just working on my personal statement, I find it quite irritating how I'm the one paying the 9k a year and should be down to them to prove themselves! Ahh ;P

    Anyone else feel the same??
    these are institutions of education which have standard to upkeep, they don't want a slack jawed yoker so to speak ruining their perfectly reputable university be getting a 2:2 or 3, then again this is only for top 30, I found below that line they sold themselves to me more so, even Manchester did, a personal statement which took 5 minutes was seen to them as beyond fantastic along with my reference, and what was almost a 5 minute interview led them giving me a great offer on the spot, they then proceeded to sell me the university, you want universities to see you have 3 A's like most students applying to good universities and try to differentiate you? and work and pick through 1000's of students? they have prospectuses and open days which they do exactly that.
  11. jayjamine's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    yeh ok maybe so, I think interviews would be ideal rather than being offered a place on the basis of a personal statement...
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    yeh ok maybe so, I think interviews would be ideal rather than being offered a place on the basis of a personal statement...
    Most universities really don't have the time to offer every candidate an interview.
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    As has already been said; they've already sold themselves to us with prospectuses, open days, letters and e-mails etc - if you're applying, chances are you're one of a large number of people whom the uni has sold themselves to, and now it's time for you to make sure you stand out from everyone and get in.
  14. James10000's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    Demand outstrips supply. Not enough Uni Spaces and more competition from european students.
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    Not really, no.

    University applications are not difficult things to put together in all honesty....
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by bramz19)
    Jolly good thing we don't get to interview our lecturers, or I might have packed the whole uni thing in and become a hermit.
    Quite. One member of the lecturing staff at my place looked like Ozy Osbourne, was very obviously male yet wore summer dresses all the time. Had I seen or spoken to him/her/whatever on an open day I'd have dug a hole and never emerged.
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    So you're saying that these advertisements on tsr are not examples of Universities trying to sell themselves? :cool:

    Besides, UCAS applications are really very little sacrifice for students, given the vast amount of consideration that universities must adhere to when processing them.
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    (Original post by jayjamine)
    Just working on my personal statement, I find it quite irritating how I'm the one paying the 9k a year and should be down to them to prove themselves! Ahh ;P

    Anyone else feel the same??
    There's so many people including those from abroad applying into universities. So unis are spoilt for choice- they have to pick the best so you have to literally make yourself seem the best.
    Good luck with your personal statement
  19. lukas1051's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    It's a case of supply and demand. The most prestigious, highly ranked universities know that they don't have to sell themselves because they'll still receive huge numbers of applications anyway, when every course is oversubscribed they will naturally wish to have the best students, if you don't sell yourself then you're only letting yourself down.
  20. Prepare-Yourself's Avatar
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    Re: Uni's should be selling themselves to us not vice versa!
    No sorry, but Uni's still need to distinguish who they should give places to
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