[blueray]

(Original post by orange'94)
I agree with all apart from the above, you education polices seem a bit to extreme for me, we should not pay bonuses to school, they should be working to the highest standard or not at all. Kicking out the disruptive pupils will only lead them into the benefits trap, we need centers in schools to deal with theses kids and make them into better people who can earn an honest living, its achievable.
Boarding schools for disruptive sounds to extreme and would be a border line prison, we have these, lets get trained professionals to work with these children and help them adapt to mainstream education.

Housing, we need more of it and not destroy the countryside, so a law that means if a house is vacant for more then a few months then it must be surrendered and used for social housing , this will ease the stain on the waiting lists aswell. And embark on a rehousing program which moves single/couples out of there 3 bed council house into a smaller flat that is suitable and give the house to a family needs it, this will be compulsorily and if they dont like it then they will have no house.

I agree with more money into public transport, it should be cheaper to get the bus then drive, at the moment its not!.

Compulsorily recycling of cooking oil into bio diesel which will pay for itself and maybe even a profit.

Withdraw from all our current war commitments, there expensive and cause way to much damage, yes we are doing to protect the citizens, but really its not our job to police the world of all danger. We need to focus on rebuilding the country at the moment.

Banking reform, sounds like a brave idea but.... Nationalize the banks. Im not sure how but the government would do a better job and looking after and lending money to the normal people. Probably have to leave the business banks but i think the voters would be up for a National bank after all the trouble they have caused us.


These are my Ideas, so what do you think Green party?

(Sorry about spelling , spellcheck is broken and I cant spell haha)

I have been in those centers and they do nothing at all, in fact they reward bad behaviour, we should have those boarding schools as it makes them value education (I will explain now)

On benefits, I say we reform it.

You only get food benefits eg vouchers for food., a bit of lighting at a certain time of day etc, people
shouldn't be able to "live" of it.

Otherwise it creates a generation of scroungers, it should only be a saftey net. People will see it as a safety net and use education to get out of it

Yes more green housing, and locals on the list take priorty first.

[Metrobeans]

I will make a decision whether to recommend this to the admins for their consideration on Thursday. As you'll be aware, my main criteria will be whether you guys are positively and actively developing policy and whether you are positively and actively making a contribution to the MHoC as a whole.

[TheHansa]

(Original post by blueray)
Yeah I mean actually panels in the road that would generate electricity when the car moves over it.
Haha thanks, got any suggestions, such as on banking? Any regulation or no regulation?

I still don't understand, to do work against the panels to generate electricity more fuel would have to be burned in the car and much of the energy would be lost as heat.

With banking I think the only piece of regulation needed is the separation of investment banking and the sort normal everyday people use, which the current government IRL has set to be brought in. This way future bailouts will not be needed to protect the general public from losing their savings. I think the best way out policy would be a national monopoly bank for saving and lending because neither of these things create wealth, so any profits made should be ploughed back into public services for the common good.

[usycool1]

(Original post by blueray)
My policies (which green members can modify etc):
1) After the olympics:
Regenerate the most deprived area of newham in east london and create a legacy for youth, of the olympic games
Convert the olypic park to make it into a world class sports park. Youth from the area and the UK will compete in a national games for the youth every year.
This will encourage sporting competition amoungst the youth and they will go onto develop and become ambasadors for the area, regenerating the area.

This is quite a good idea but as internetguru said, this could be quite expensive and be bad for the debt.

2) Work with researchers to come up with a small device (one switch that turns of all electrical appliances in the home)
This will help save so much enregy in the long run and make it easier for people.

I think there are already things like this?

3) All new buildings will have to be to a "green standard" it will subsidiesd by the goverenment, from scrapping a nuclear weapons program.

Sounds good. What exactly does the "green standard" consist of?

4) Run electiricy from the national gird, from renewable energy. It can be run from hydrogen and wave alone. Don't belieive me? http://www.hydrogen.co.uk/h2/h2_page2.htm

This sounds like a very good idea but I'm slightly doubtful that it'd work (I haven't read the website yet, so I could be wrong ) I mean, if it could be run on just renewable energy then surely the government would have already implemented it? Or if it does work, then there could be a good reason as to why they haven't implemented it yet (e.g. too expensive, unreliable etc.)

5) Introduce motion panels that generate elecitry when you walk/drive over them, eg in the motorway and busy roads, we would generate a lot of electricity.

I like this idea The main problem is the cost, though.

6) Eventually stop imports of non eco friednley products

Sounds like a good idea, but how do you propose we do this?

7) Make cheap public transport, the more people you have using it, the more money you generate and the more you can improve it.

Agreed

1) Pay schools bonuses for sucess, to compete with private schools.

I think this is a good idea. It could, however, lead to schools just taking in the brightest pupils which could cause some people to suffer as a result.

2) Have more scolarships for the best students in comprehensives.

Agreed

3) Give schools the ability to kick out disruptive pupils more easily, so it doesn't influcence the ones that wanto to learn.

I'm unsure about this one. I agree to some extent for the reason that you have given (i.e. it'll help people who want to learn) but then I think about what if these disruptive pupils are unable to attend school altogether because they are kicked out easily.

4)Have more khan academy ie videolearning, for more slower pupils, ie if the teacher is too fast.

Good idea

5)Maybe have bording schools for disruptive pupils and change their mindset, ie make them value education and show them it's a path out of poverty eg "chavs" who don't see he point in learning

Again, I'm unsure as to where I stand on this one. It sounds interesting and like a good idea, but then sometimes it sounds a bit like a prison and a bit too extreme (as orange said above).

6)Have an apprenticship style UCAS system, so that more practical pupils can see the value of their apprenticships. And make our manufacturing economy better.

Agreed.

1) Have an improved NHS

No need to say that I agree with this

Quite good ideas

(Original post by blueray)
Great ideas as always USY

The reduction of coperation tax, would definatley help.
Yes we can stop going to wars to reduce some costs
EMA....not too sure about that, a lot of people spent it on smoking etc (chavs etc),
Instead have voulchers for books, stationary etc to ensure they only spend it on that
Yes don't want uni fees to be too high, it will put off too many people.
Great!

Want to comment on mine etc?

Thanks

I like the idea about having some sort of voucher system

[blueray]

(Original post by Metrobeans)
I will make a decision whether to recommend this to the admins for their consideration on Thursday. As you'll be aware, my main criteria will be whether you guys are positively and actively developing policy and whether you are positively and actively making a contribution to the MHoC as a whole.

Thanks Nic we appreciate it, some of our other members are banned atm, but emailed me saying they will post as soon as they are not

(Original post by TheHansa)
I still don't understand, to do work against the panels to generate electricity more fuel would have to be burned in the car and much of the energy would be lost as heat.

With banking I think the only piece of regulation needed is the separation of investment banking and the sort normal everyday people use, which the current government IRL has set to be brought in. This way future bailouts will not be needed to protect the general public from losing their savings. I think the best way out policy would be a national monopoly bank for saving and lending because neither of these things create wealth, so any profits made should be ploughed back into public services for the common good.

No no, it's a bit confusing, think of it like this, when the car travels over the road, pressure is applied to the plates, this generates electricity, since lots of cars are travelling on it (eg a motorway) lots of electricity would me made.

Yeah I was thinking what would happen if we just had one national bank, or separated banking totally from the government? Any ideas?

[blueray]

Another new policy idea: Stop supermarkets from throwing away vegetables and fruit that don't look a certain way.

It is a waste of food, energy etc. And it deluding the public making them think cucumbers are only straight etc.

[SciFiRory]

so you guys aren't anything like the real life Green party then? am disappoint tbh.

[blueray]

(Original post by usycool1)
1)This is quite a good idea but as internetguru said, this could be quite expensive and be bad for the debt.

2)I think there are already things like this?

3)Sounds good. What exactly does the "green standard" consist of?

4)This sounds like a very good idea but I'm slightly doubtful that it'd work (I haven't read the website yet, so I could be wrong ) I mean, if it could be run on just renewable energy then surely the government would have already implemented it? Or if it does work, then there could be a good reason as to why they haven't implemented it yet (e.g. too expensive, unreliable etc.)

5)I like this idea The main problem is the cost, though.

6)Sounds like a good idea, but how do you propose we do this?

Agreed

7)I think this is a good idea. It could, however, lead to schools just taking in the brightest pupils which could cause some people to suffer as a result.

Agreed

8)I'm unsure about this one. I agree to some extent for the reason that you have given (i.e. it'll help people who want to learn) but then I think about what if these disruptive pupils are unable to attend school altogether because they are kicked out easily.

Good idea

9)Again, I'm unsure as to where I stand on this one. It sounds interesting and like a good idea, but then sometimes it sounds a bit like a prison and a bit too extreme (as orange said above).

Agreed.
No need to say that I agree with this
10)Quite good ideas



Thanks

I like the idea about having some sort of voucher system

1) No this would generate more money in the long term, more journalists being employed to show the games, a whole generation of young people would have sport qualifications and not live off the dole.

The policy is a long sighted, not short sighted, we want to be a different party, not one that only sees short term goals But good point!

2) There are, but 1) they are not compatible with every home, 2) they are expensive 3) Not much PR of the product has meant not many people are buying it


3) I think I will make a whole separte plan on this, eg low carbon conrete, wood from sustainable sources, solar panels, wind turbines, good insulation; the solar and wind seem expensive but we can land contracts with cheap foreign companies in the short term, whilst researching our own to make it cheaper for us (like you said with grants to business who are researching this )


4) Haha read the website it's all there , they haven't because the gov gets SO MUCH MONEY FROM OIL, it's all linked it, these oil companies, these wars for oil etc, with hydrogen you can make it anywhere, so they wouldn't have an excuse to go to war for oil and oil companies would be out of pocket big time. Which is good because they are destroying our world.

5) Yeah that links in with point 3. You had a good idea.

6) By offering incentives to the green products, eg less import and export costs, maybe even free for a little while; get the interest flowing. They do free trade zones along the coast in China and they landed a whole load of companies.

7) No no, it would help all pupils because teachers would want to make them all learn so they get bonuses, education benefits everyone. Same can be applied to good aprenticships etc.

8, 9) Think about it, what do they do once they come out of school anyway? They live of the dole. Yeah it's a bit major but, the boarding schools would keep them away from bad influences for a certain time, they come out with good qualifications, jobs etc and they change the attitude of their family, and once the mind set is changed it helps everyone.

10) Thanks for agreeing with quite a lot of the ideas and criticizing others etc Top form chaps!

[toronto353]

(Original post by blueray)
Another new policy idea: Stop supermarkets from throwing away vegetables and fruit that don't look a certain way.

It is a waste of food, energy etc. And it deluding the public making them think cucumbers are only straight etc.

Ah you would have to repeal EU legislation for that to happen. So you're eurosceptic, I like that.

[blueray]

(Original post by toronto353)
Ah you would have to repeal EU legislation for that to happen. So you're eurosceptic, I like that.

We care about the world and a green world. We wont have people ruin it for personal financial gain.

[toronto353]

(Original post by blueray)
We care about the world and a green world. We wont have people ruin it for personal financial gain.

So are you a eurosceptic party then?

[orange'94]

(Original post by blueray)
I have been in those centers and they do nothing at all, in fact they reward bad behaviour, we should have those boarding schools as it makes them value education (I will explain now)

On benefits, I say we reform it.

You only get food benefits eg vouchers for food., a bit of lighting at a certain time of day etc, people
shouldn't be able to "live" of it.

Otherwise it creates a generation of scroungers, it should only be a saftey net. People will see it as a safety net and use education to get out of it

Yes more green housing, and locals on the list take priorty first.

Well you havent been to the right ones, there are loads that work, and the benefits thing might be a bit too far, its a step towards saying lets just round them all up and put them in massive ghettos untill they get a job and we let them out. Its not a good look for the green party.

[blueray]

(Original post by toronto353)
So are you a eurosceptic party then?

Some aspects, not all.

(Original post by orange'94)
Well you havent been to the right ones, there are loads that work, and the benefits thing might be a bit too far, its a step towards saying lets just round them all up and put them in massive ghettos untill they get a job and we let them out. Its not a good look for the green party.

yeah that's true, what solution do you have? Right now they are causing trouble riots etc/scrounging, need a change, but how I wonder????

[toronto353]

(Original post by blueray)
Some aspects, not all.

Could you clarify what you mean by this? Also, could you outline Green Party foreign policy?

[internetguru]

(Original post by toronto353)
Could you clarify what you mean by this? Also, could you outline Green Party foreign policy?

As long as I have influence the Green Party shall remain eurosceptic. We both know world free trade is here in TSR world so remaining in the EU seems pretty pointless. I expect a referendum next term.

[orange'94]

(Original post by blueray)

yeah that's true, what solution do you have? Right now they are causing trouble riots etc/scrounging, need a change, but how I wonder????

Sensitive issue but they are a LARGE part of the voters now and the slight thing to upset them and we are screwed.

[blueray]

(Original post by orange'94)
Sensitive issue but they are a LARGE part of the voters now and the slight thing to upset them and we are screwed.

You sure half of the chavs don't even know how the gov works or who the pm is....but I see your point

[blueray]

(Original post by toronto353)
Could you clarify what you mean by this? Also, could you outline Green Party foreign policy?

Don't get involved in wars, try to make the world green, bring pressure on countires that are
polluting too much via bad PR rep.

[JamesNeedHelp2]

Over the past few days, what progress have we done as a party?

[Mazzini]

(Original post by blueray)
Do you know what kinetic energy is? Can't believe this.

Of course I know what kinetic energy is. What I was asking is how are you going to convert the kinetic energy of the car into electrical energy in the panel?

And if you do manage to, then surely that would slow down the car somewhat?