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  1. TaylorGang_4's Avatar
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    Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    I was having this discussion with some friends, and they seemed to ridicule this theory. However I believe that the world's elite may have the power to disclose this declaration. Religion is often the cause of many conflicts. In my opinion these conflicts are orchestrated by politicians who see perceive wars to be economically beneficial. By disclosing the existence of God, the elite are able to preserve information which could either diminish a religion's credibility, or enhance it. Please don't classify me as a conspiracy theorist or anything as such. I am solely illustrating a theory which may be applicable to modern day society. Do you believe that the existence of God could be hidden? Or is there no substantial evidence which signifies the existence of God? (excluding religious scripts)
  2. Giant's Avatar
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    Errm, I think an omnipotent and omnipresent "God" would be able to bypass some squabbling, corrupt human politicians and reveal himself by his own accord if he wanted.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    I respect your 'unique' view....BUT...LOL!
  4. TaylorGang_4's Avatar
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
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    Errm, I think an omnipotent and omnipresent "God" would be able to bypass some squabbling, corrupt human politicians and reveal himself by his own accord if he wanted.
    I believe that only man would be able to contribute to the revelation of God, and not God himself. Therefore man has the power to disclose information which may have been found.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    In answer to the thread title: no.

    And now I've actually taken the time to read the OP, there are two basic flaws in your theory:

    1) God, if he did exist, could outsmart a bunch of conspiring politicians if he so wished.
    2) Your argument that hiding the existence of God would prevent some conflict doesn't work; religious wars are based on disagreements about who God is and how he should be worshiped. If there is one 'right' answer to this, then the only way to solve conflict is to reveal the 'right' answer. To hide it would be counter productive.
    Last edited by sammy-lou; 02-07-2012 at 21:50.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    The title implies a God exists.
    I beg to differ.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    The political elite have stumbled across information no one else in the world has and have universally kept it secret for.. Generations?

    Simply, no.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by TaylorGang_4)
    I was having this discussion with some friends, and they seemed to ridicule this theory. However I believe that the world's elite may have the power to disclose this declaration. Religion is often the cause of many conflicts. In my opinion these conflicts are orchestrated by politicians who see perceive wars to be economically beneficial. By disclosing the existence of God, the elite are able to preserve information which could either diminish a religion's credibility, or enhance it. Please don't classify me as a conspiracy theorist or anything as such. I am solely illustrating a theory which may be applicable to modern day society. Do you believe that the existence of God could be hidden? Or is there no substantial evidence which signifies the existence of God? (excluding religious scripts)
    I also believe that the existence of God is being hidden.

    Along with Nessie, Bigfoot and the Chupacabra

    ALL HAIL HIS NOODLY APPENDAGE
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    I was having this discussion with some friends, and they seemed to ridicule this theory. However I believe that the world's elite may have the power to disclose this declaration. Religion is often the cause of many conflicts. In my opinion these conflicts are orchestrated by politicians who see perceive wars to be economically beneficial. By disclosing the existence of God, the elite are able to preserve information which could either diminish a religion's credibility, or enhance it. Please don't classify me as a conspiracy theorist or anything as such. I am solely illustrating a theory which may be applicable to modern day society. Do you believe that the existence of God could be hidden? Or is there no substantial evidence which signifies the existence of God? (excluding religious scripts)
    For good reason...
    As Giant said really, a god wouldnt be bound by human actions... and either way if its 'economically benefitial' please explain away afghanistan?
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    No God = no hiding
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by sammy-lou)
    In answer to the thread title: no.

    And now I've actually taken the time to read the OP, there are two basic flaws in your theory:

    1) God, if he did exist, could outsmart a bunch of conspiring politicians if he so wished.
    2) Your argument that hiding the existence of God would prevent some conflict doesn't work; religious wars are based on disagreements about who God is and how he should be worshiped. If there is one 'right' answer to this, then the only way to solve conflict is to reveal the 'right' answer. To hide it would be counter productive.
    I have already stated your first 'flaw'. Secondly I thing you have misread the OP. I have stated that conflicts are down to religious disagreements, the existence of God would not prevent any conflicts, it would simply enhance these conflicts. The revelation of the correct theological theories would simply create greater conflicts, something which would be overwhelming and it may sociologically destroy the human race.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
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    For good reason...
    As Giant said really, a god wouldnt be bound by human actions... and either way if its 'economically benefitial' please explain away afghanistan?
    Afghanistan? One word my friend, drugs.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    Yes, yes they are indeed hiding the existence of God.

    You're like the Al Gore of religion, you utter brainbox revolutionary, you!
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    Yes, yes they are indeed hiding the existence of God.

    You're like the Al Gore of religion, you utter brainbox revolutionary, you!
    Stop it
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by TaylorGang_4)
    I have already stated your first 'flaw'. Secondly I thing you have misread the OP. I have stated that conflicts are down to religious disagreements, the existence of God would not prevent any conflicts, it would simply enhance these conflicts. The revelation of the correct theological theories would simply create greater conflicts, something which would be overwhelming and it may sociologically destroy the human race.
    Ah OK, I sort of see where your coming from. But surely if someone knows the true existence of God, then this knowledge (if we put to one side the fact that others would have to be convinced) would have to put an end to the conflict and see everyone in agreement. I don't understand how the revelation if the correct theological theories would create greater conflict. At worst it would result in the same conflict we see already. At best, by whatever means it takes, it would see everyone in agreement, hence no conflict.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by TaylorGang_4)
    I believe that only man would be able to contribute to the revelation of God, and not God himself. Therefore man has the power to disclose information which may have been found.
    I don't believe what you believe.

    I think "God" (assuming he does exist) is more powerful than man and can reveal himself without the need for any person to do his bidding.

    Anything else would just be lazy.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    If God existed, No-one could hide him! Unless it was osama bin laden
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by sammy-lou)
    Ah OK, I sort of see where your coming from. But surely if someone knows the true existence of God, then this knowledge (if we put to one side the fact that others would have to be convinced) would have to put an end to the conflict and see everyone in agreement. I don't understand how the revelation if the correct theological theories would create greater conflict. At worst it would result in the same conflict we see already. At best, by whatever means it takes, it would see everyone in agreement, hence no conflict.
    I understand where you are coming from, however, if one religion is portrayed as being the correct religious path, the way of life of so many people would be destroyed. This would theoretically create unmountable tension which would result in the eradication of a person's way of life, their way of thinking and even their sole existence.
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    (Original post by JollyGreenAtheist)
    Yes, yes they are indeed hiding the existence of God.

    You're like the Al Gore of religion, you utter brainbox revolutionary, you!


    I laughed so much i failed my scientology audit
  20. noisy06's Avatar
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    Re: Are the world's powers hiding the existence of God?
    Just no. But some powers may be unwilling to confirm the existence of the Jinn.
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