[Scumbaggio]

So I've never actually started a thread but I felt I had to share this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj9dA6E3fJw

[Norton1]

I almost always disagree with Starkey.

But bloody hell he's amazing.

[ForensicShoe]

Starkey

Penny sounds like a right whiny bitch. Her voice is incredibly irritating.

She just dug herself a hole in the end while attempting to play the victim card. Silly cow.

[BoringComputerGuy]

Laurie Penny "I really don't appreciate being stood on stage to be personally attacked..." right after she had attempted to do the very same thing to Starkey.

[Scumbaggio]

I cannot stand champagne socialists.

[solaplusplus]

No matter what she said, at least she did it in a civil manner. Why did he have to be so aggressive jabbing his finger in her face? If he had done that to a man, I wouldn't be surprised if the response was a punch to the face.

[blueray]

(Original post by Scumbaggio)
I cannot stand champagne socialists.

If you say something, you have to be prepared to argue it.
I hate deluded socialists, jumping on the bandwagon, whilst knowing nothing about the economy.

[Scumbaggio]

(Original post by blueray)
If you say something, you have to be prepared to argue it.
I hate deluded socialists, jumping on the bandwagon, whilst knowing nothing about the economy.

The problem with it is you have to practice what you preach, otherwise you are quite rightly seen as a total hypocrite.

screaming 'racist' or 'bigot' hysterically at someone really does not achieve a lot.

[blueray]

(Original post by Scumbaggio)
The problem with it is you have to practice what you preach, otherwise you are quite rightly seen as a total hypocrite.

screaming 'racist' or 'bigot' hysterically at someone really does not achieve a lot.

I am agreeing with you btw.
She couldn't back it up and she did start it.

[Jack-Jimmison]

She just made a fool of herself to be honest, she accused a man of being a 'bigot' without backing it up without any evidence. Penny is one of those socialists who give them bad names, by screaming 'racist' at anyone who doesn't share her views.

If i was in Starkey's position i would of probably responded the same way, even though the manner he did it in can be seen as aggressive accusations of racism can damage someones credibility especially in the case of historians who's wealth is generated through being credible.

I wanted to see the discussion (or whatever it had turned into) proceed further, at least then Penny would have realized that its a bad move making unsubstantiated arguments against a historian.

[Algorithm69]

Awful bitch got owned. Typical leftist. Make baseless accusations and then play the victim card when they're called out on it.

[tc92]

I loved when even people in the audience were shouting at her "you started it". Hate these people who try and get away with throwing wild accusations around without backing them up and thinking they'll get away with it.

[DorianGrayism]

She asked him a question and was being insulting. I would have been angry as well.

However, Starkey reacted like a child.

One person acting like a moron is not a justification for the other acting even more stupidly. It demeans the debate when it is reduced to people hurling insults and finger pointing.

[King Kebab]

Love him or loathe him, I love how he isn't scared to voice an opinion. Why is that no mark Penny invited to things like this anyway?

[The Epicurean]

I dislike Starkey, however I think I have found someone I hate more than him.

She has no right to be offended because she had previously attacked him.

[Rhadamanthus]

Vintage Starkey - going all out on some prissy little girl because she can't back up her fallacious arguments.

[TheHansa]

I enjoyed that, Starkey might be a donkey but she deserved what she got. Such a typical champagne socialist, constantly worrying about how much tax other people are paying, but she won't volunteer for two pitiful days.

[M'Ling]

She manages to say triple the words necessary without saying anything of any value. We need people like Starkey, like him or not, so we don't, as a people, have to endure idiots like the woman in this video, who gets owned.

[Formerly Helpful_C]

She called him out for absolutely no reason at all.

Did you notice, that when Starkey stood up, she laughed? Do you think this is how she gets her kicks?

[Craig_D]

I used to like Starkey, until it turned out that he was vaguely racist. And I'm sorry to any feminists around but even more so I cannot stand Laurie Penny, at all. Yes, I know it's an ad hominem but I can't stand her general demeanour; I can't stand that she once put out a job advert offering less than minimum wage and specified in said advert that she wanted a woman for the job; I can't stand her pitiful defence of the Occupy protests; I can't stand her whole "I'm so socialist! Look, I even have red hair!" thing; I can't stand the "I haven't been so thrilled since daddy bought me my third polo-pony" joke she made; I can't stand that she argues against capitalism but credits private healthcare for saving her life and said about her private education, "I see it as my duty to use those chances to contribute to a debate about meaningful social issues, and not just run off and make lots of money in PR or investment banking." So she has a duty to be prominent in the media about social issues because of her wealthy upbringing? That's pretty much the same elite arrogance that people accuse Cameron and Osborne of, except because she's on the left she's meant to get away with it. She's a walking contradiction.