[The Marshall]

(Original post by Christianlady)
Hello Marshall,

Thanks so much for standing up for me. I appreciate it.

This thread has helped me understand a bit how some British people of today, represented on this forum, think concerning the USA and history related to both of the nations, as well as how they interact with people different than them.

I hope you had a wonderful Independence Day yesterday!!! My favorite part of the festivities was that people from every ethnicity were celebrating together, in unity as Americans!!!

Peace and God greatly bless you, and to repeat a popular phrase in the USA yesterday, "God bless America"!

Thanks again for standing up for me. Peace

No problem, My dear Lady, as Southern Gentlemen, I felt disgraced at the way they treated you. Happy Indenpendece to you to! How'd you celebrate it? Barbecue? Or something else? I do say proudly, '' God Bless Amercia! '' God be with you, Christen Lady, Amercia is the greatest country in the world. I had to stand up as these vile ungrateful heathens acted in the most wrong of wrong doings.

Can I ask which state you come from? Texas? Ohio? Massechutes? Seattle? Florida? California?

This thread has helped me understand a bit how some British people of today, represented on this forum, think concerning the USA and history related to both of the nations, as well as how they interact with people different than them.

I think so, I can agree with that.

[x_Natalie_x]

(Original post by The Marshall)
No problem, My dear Lady, as Southern Gentlemen, I felt disgraced at the way they treated you. Happy Indenpendece to you to! How'd you celebrate it? Barbecue? Or something else? I do say proudly, '' God Bless Amercia! '' God be with you, Christen Lady, Amercia is the greatest country in the world. I had to stand up as these vile ungrateful heathens acted in the most wrong of wrong doings.

Can I ask which state you come from? Texas? Ohio? Massechutes? Seattle? Florida? California?

This thread has helped me understand a bit how some British people of today, represented on this forum, think concerning the USA and history related to both of the nations, as well as how they interact with people different than them.

I think so, I can agree with that.

Too obvious now. Poor trolling.

[Historophilia]

(Original post by The Marshall)
This just goes to show that Britiish people want to prove themselves powerful. Well, you're not. You're quite the redudant now and we are the world power now. France and Spain had larger empires and I still hold by it, I will not change it, Britian was absoueltey nothing. Espcially in front of the Japs they proved '' rubbish.'' until the tide of war turned. I am having been forced to change my view about English people because of this minority here, who are so rude that they will not allow you to speak. Therefore, I will not view every single english person as '' great.''

You ignored my post and every other post where you have been given irrefutable evidence that the French and Spanish empires were not bigger than the British.

The Spanish was at one point larger than Britain's (though Britain's later went on to be vastly bigger than Spains had been at any point) and the French empire was always smaller than Britain's.

We're arguing against you because we have some desire to big up Britain's, we're arguing because you are juts plain wrong and you refuse to accept it, despite numerical evidence otherwise.

To repeat my earlier points, at it;s height the British empire covered nearly a quarter of the world land surface and ruled over a fifth of the worlds population. It was the largest empire the world has ever seen.

Nothing? You have a very strange definition of nothing.

[megan.c]

(Original post by The Marshall)
So when I wrote a historical answer, was that trolling?

No. I didn't say you were trolling.
I just said no one on this forum knows the definition apparently.

[The Marshall]

(Original post by x_Natalie_x)
Too obvious now. Poor trolling.

Say what you British want. I am Amercian, and I will stand by the OP. I don't care now, your claims of trolling make no effect whatsoever.

[Christianlady]

(Original post by Made in the USA)
On the other hand, to completely absolve European settlers of any blame for what happened to the indigenous people here isn't entirely correct either. There are too many people here who like to put all the blame on the USA for all atrocities committed against native Americans. I don't see we we can't both agree that both countries made some mistakes in their history and leave it at that?

Hello Made in the USA,

When I wrote this thread, my intention wasn't to blame the UK for anything. i wanted to see what the people in the UK's perception of the USA Independence Day was nowadays. As for what happened in the past, I am ashamed of my ancestors if they were involved in killing Native Americans and enslaving people from Africa. I was not pointing fingers at the people in the UK, but rather at my own ancestors, even though I have no idea when they came here to the USA. i do very much hope they were kind people, but my grandparents and great-grandparents have not kept alive the account of my ancestors.

Anyways, I am thankful to the people who answered kindly, including those who said that people in the UK don't think about the Independence Day of the USA.

[The Marshall]

(Original post by megan.c)
No. I didn't say you were trolling.
I just said no one on this forum knows the definition apparently.

You said I was trolling, countless of your countrymen have said that too me. You still say I am trolling! Well, damn you to hell!

[The Marshall]

(Original post by Christianlady)
Hello Made in the USA,

When I wrote this thread, my intention wasn't to blame the UK for anything. i wanted to see what the people in the UK's perception of the USA Independence Day was nowadays. As for what happened in the past, I am ashamed of my ancestors if they were involved in killing Native Americans and enslaving people from Africa. I was not pointing fingers at the people in the UK, but rather at my own ancestors, even though I have no idea when they came here to the USA. i do very much hope they were kind people, but my grandparents and great-grandparents have not kept alive the account of my ancestors.

Anyways, I am thankful to the people who answered kindly, including those who said that people in the UK don't think about the Independence Day of the USA.

What she has said are the words of angel. We do not intend to hate the UK, but with such strong views of yours, I find it impossiable to like english people anymore

Thank you, OP, for making the thread so these vile creatures could learn something./

[The Marshall]

(Original post by Historophilia)
You ignored my post and every other post where you have been given irrefutable evidence that the French and Spanish empires were not bigger than the British.

The Spanish was at one point larger than Britain's (though Britain's later went on to be vastly bigger than Spains had been at any point) and the French empire was always smaller than Britain's.

We're arguing against you because we have some desire to big up Britain's, we're arguing because you are juts plain wrong and you refuse to accept it, despite numerical evidence otherwise.

To repeat my earlier points, at it;s height the British empire covered nearly a quarter of the world land surface and ruled over a fifth of the worlds population. It was the largest empire the world has ever seen.

Nothing? You have a very strange definition of nothing.

I still stand by the fact that France and Spain had larger empires. England didn't rule much. If you English didn't care about our day of independence, I'm sure I don't need to care whether England had a big Empire now. Because the Independence is part of British history, the very first time a nation actually pulled out of the Empire, years later, India and Indo China began doing the same. Britian ruled during the revolution so I think it is a big part in your history, only that you will ignore it because you lost against American forces led by Washington./

[megan.c]

(Original post by The Marshall)
You said I was trolling, countless of your countrymen have said that too me. You still say I am trolling! Well, damn you to hell!

Quote me saying you're trolling. Go on, you won't be able to because I didn't.
That was pretty much defending you and even then you chose to throw it back in my face - is it any wonder you haven't been well received?
Why don't you respond to some of the historic facts that other people have posted rather than insisting on your own? Or answer any of the legitimate questions about your racism
You never told me why London doesn't deserve the Olympics.

[Reformed2010]

(Original post by The Marshall)
This just goes to show that Britiish people want to prove themselves powerful. Well, you're not. You're quite the redudant now and we are the world power now. France and Spain had larger empires and I still hold by it, I will not change it, Britian was absoueltey nothing. Espcially in front of the Japs they proved '' rubbish.'' until the tide of war turned. I am having been forced to change my view about English people because of this minority here, who are so rude that they will not allow you to speak. Therefore, I will not view every single english person as '' great.''

It's an academic fact. Get over yourself and eat some humble pie. You might as well argue the moon is made out of cheese.

[Historophilia]

(Original post by The Marshall)
I still stand by the fact that France and Spain had larger empires. England didn't rule much. If you English didn't care about our day of independence, I'm sure I don't need to care whether England had a big Empire now./

But why do you stand by that fact when it's categorically wrong?

England ruled **** tonnes, as I said, a fifth of the world population and nearly a quarter of the worlds surface.

We don't expect you to care about the British empire, why should you? But we do expect you to get your facts right when trying to have a discussion about it and not refuse to accept basic numerical evidence when given to you.

This page is interesting, as it lists the worlds greatest empires throughout history by size: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...reatest_extent

Nota bene:

British Empire
Mongol empire
Russian Empire
Spanish Empire
Qing Dynasty
Yuan Dynasty
Second French Colonial Empire

[Christianlady]

(Original post by The Marshall)
No problem, My dear Lady, as Southern Gentlemen, I felt disgraced at the way they treated you. Happy Indenpendece to you to! How'd you celebrate it? Barbecue? Or something else? I do say proudly, '' God Bless Amercia! '' God be with you, Christen Lady, Amercia is the greatest country in the world. I had to stand up as these vile ungrateful heathens acted in the most wrong of wrong doings.

Can I ask which state you come from? Texas? Ohio? Massechutes? Seattle? Florida? California?

This thread has helped me understand a bit how some British people of today, represented on this forum, think concerning the USA and history related to both of the nations, as well as how they interact with people different than them.

I think so, I can agree with that.

Hello Marshall

Why thank you! My husband and I had a lovely picnic with friends at church, attended the church service and enjoyed singing such wonderful songs as "My Country 'Tis of Thee" and "His Truth is Marching On". Afterwards, we went to see fireworks!!! It was awesome to see people both native born and immigrants celebrate the birthday of our country!!!

To answer your question, I was born in Arizona in a predominately Native American hospital. I am from the Southwest!!! My hubby and I currently live in the beautiful state of Florida.

I disagree with calling people "heathens". I'm not sure if you are doing so as a joke, but I don't think it's good or kind to call people insulting names.

Where in the South are you from? Again, thanks for standing up for me. My Mom is a Texan and people being gentlemen and ladies are very important in my family. How did you celebrate the 4th?

[The Marshall]

(Original post by megan.c)
**** you!!
Quote me saying you're trolling. Go on, you won't be able to because I didn't.
That was pretty much defending you and even then you chose to throw it back in my face - is it any wonder you haven't been well received?
Why don't you respond to some of the historic facts that other people have posted rather than insisting on your own? Or answer any of the legitimate questions about your racism
You never told me why London doesn't deserve the Olympics.

Damn you to hell again!!!!!!

How were you defending me? You wrote against me in every single context. How could I know you were in support of me? HOW? Perhaps I may reply to them, but they couldn't answer my answer that I wrote!

I'll tell you why England didn't need to host the Olympics, but that'll be in a separate post.

Once again, Amercia has proved triumphant./

[Aj12]

Right as this thread keeps going off topic and is fast descending into a Brit vs American slagging contest I am closing it.