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Islam/Muslims in the UKWe all know that this is a big issue currently and from the threads on here, there are plenty of people venting their frustrations or expressing opinions and beliefs.
Those people who don't like islam and muslims (in its traditional conservative style), how to you see the future of islam and muslims panning out over the coming years and decades. Will it increase and spread across cities and towns or will it be something which will die out or remain isolated to certain places?
I personally believe that as generations pass, islam and muslims in the UK will become less conservative and rigid in their beliefs and values. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKThey'll stay in their own parts of the cities and basically change that part of it completely to how they want it and not what everyone wants (i.e. Mosques everywhere and shops that sell halal and foreign foods only) and then expand into different areas and do the same.
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKResearch suggests otherwise,(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
I personally believe that as generations pass, islam and muslims in the UK will become less conservative and rigid in their beliefs and values.
http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (read it all, its a brilliant read)
1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:
16-24: 56% agree
45-54: 40% agree
2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:
16-24: 36% agree
45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree
3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:
16-24: 71% agree
45-54: 54% agree
55+: 50% agree -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKso you think it will only spread?(Original post by That Friday Feelin)
They'll stay in their own parts of the cities and basically change that part of it completely to how they want it and not what everyone wants (i.e. Mosques everywhere and shops that sell halal and foreign foods only) and then expand into different areas and do the same. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKwell of course muslims won't agree with these things (not sure about the musilms conversion part) . . . .(Original post by prog2djent)
Research suggests otherwise,
http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (read it all, its a brilliant read)
1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:
16-24: 56% agree
45-54: 40% agree
2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:
16-24: 36% agree
45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree
3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:
16-24: 71% agree
45-54: 54% agree
55+: 50% agree -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKYeah, in my opinion.(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
so you think it will only spread? -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKI think most Muslims will eventually leave and return to the country of their ancestors, due to political and social pressures in the west, in fact, Muslims would be fools not to, considering the lessons from history.(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
We all know that this is a big issue currently and from the threads on here, there are plenty of people venting their frustrations or expressing opinions and beliefs.
Those people who don't like islam and muslims (in its traditional conservative style), how to you see the future of islam and muslims panning out over the coming years and decades. Will it increase and spread across cities and towns or will it be something which will die out or remain isolated to certain places?
I personally believe that as generations pass, islam and muslims in the UK will become less conservative and rigid in their beliefs and values. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKwhat possible political and social pressures in the west could force british muslims to leave britain and return to pakistan, somalia, iraq etc..(Original post by Khalak)
I think most Muslims will eventually leave and return to the country of their ancestors, due to political and social pressures in the west, in fact, Muslims would be fools not to, considering the lessons from history. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKThe sort that made The Jewish people flee Europe, obviously the conditions will not to anywhere near that extent, but the fear of what may come will probably be enough to warrant an exodus.(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
what possible political and social pressures in the west could force british muslims to leave britain and return to pakistan, somalia, iraq etc..
The rise of far right parties not only here but in countries across Europe, will in time create such hostile conditions. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKSo you are just going to competely ingnore the fact that studies show that the younger generation are in fact MORE conservative than their parents, contrary to your opinion?(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
well of course muslims won't agree with these things (not sure about the musilms conversion part) . . . . -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKsame views as christianity and judasim. as for inter religios marriage, i don't belive it is a good idea as it can often confuse children and put strain on the relation. just look at tom cruise and kate holmes.(Original post by prog2djent)
Research suggests otherwise,
http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (read it all, its a brilliant read)
1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:
16-24: 56% agree
45-54: 40% agree
2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:
16-24: 36% agree
45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree
3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:
16-24: 71% agree
45-54: 54% agree
55+: 50% agree -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKsame views as christianity and judasim. as for inter -racial or faith marriage, i don't belive it is a good idea as it can often confuse children and put strain on the relation. just look at tom cruise and kate holmes.(Original post by prog2djent)
Research suggests otherwise,
http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (read it all, its a brilliant read)
1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:
16-24: 56% agree
45-54: 40% agree
2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:
16-24: 36% agree
45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree
3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:
16-24: 71% agree
45-54: 54% agree
55+: 50% agree -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKI just said that musilms won't agree with things like homosexuality, marrying outside of the religion etc . . . . this doesn't make them more conservative than their parents. These are things which are universally agreed upon by muslims...(Original post by prog2djent)
So you are just going to competely ingnore the fact that studies show that the younger generation are in fact MORE conservative than their parents, contrary to your opinion? -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKan 'exodus' will only come if far right governments come into power across europe . . . .don't see that happening . . . . british muslims will have less and less ties to their ancestral home as generations pass. Why on earth would they want to move to a corrupt hellhole like pakistan?(Original post by Khalak)
The sort that made The Jewish people flee Europe, obviously the conditions will not to anywhere near that extent, but the fear of what may come will probably be enough to warrant an exodus.
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKFunny thing research, you can always find studies suggesting something different:(Original post by prog2djent)
Research suggests otherwise,
3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:
16-24: 71% agree
45-54: 54% agree
55+: 50% agree
Therefore 75% have respect for homosexuals and find them at the very least acceptable? Certainly not the extreme opinion of it being wrong and illegal, and it very much leans away from the general perception of the religion being overly homophobic amongst the younger generations.The YouGov poll was conducted for the Right-wing think tank, the Centre for Social Cohesion, at 12 universities, including Imperial College and Kings College London. It also found:
'a quarter have little or no respect for homosexuals.'
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UK(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
I just said that musilms won't agree with things like homosexuality, marrying outside of the religion etc . . . . this doesn't make them more conservative than their parents. These are things which are universally agreed upon by muslims...
Are you insane?
You said, and agreed with another poster, that Muslim youths are less conservative than their parents despite the fact the above study tell us the exact opposite.
If having very conservative stances on homosexuality, outside marrying and conversion/apostacy isn't conservative ... then you need your head checking, or at least get some glasses, or atleast admit you have a huge amount of denial to come over. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKI think islam will continue as it it is at the moment - ie will remain conservative and ghettoised as it is at the moment in the poorest areas, and more liberalised in the 3rd and 4th generations of muslims and the more affluent(Original post by MonkeyMan2009)
We all know that this is a big issue currently and from the threads on here, there are plenty of people venting their frustrations or expressing opinions and beliefs.
Those people who don't like islam and muslims (in its traditional conservative style), how to you see the future of islam and muslims panning out over the coming years and decades. Will it increase and spread across cities and towns or will it be something which will die out or remain isolated to certain places?
I personally believe that as generations pass, islam and muslims in the UK will become less conservative and rigid in their beliefs and values. -
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Re: Islam/Muslims in the UKno . . . muslims youths are just as conservative as their parents when it comes to issues to do with homosexuality or marrying outside of the religion (or sometimes even race/tribe)(Original post by prog2djent)
Are you insane?
You said, and agreed with another poster, that Muslim youths are less conservative than their parents despite the fact the above study tell us the exact opposite.
If having very conservative stances on homosexuality, outside marrying and conversion/apostacy isn't conservative ... then you need your head checking, or at least get some glasses, or atleast admit you have a huge amount of denial to come over.
