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  1. ken2's Avatar
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    Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    a first class upper or a 2:1 degree after completion?

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  2. concubine's Avatar
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    ....


    wat
  3. purplefrog's Avatar
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    you're assuming that it is entirely dependent upon the university's teaching and course delivery that determine the performance of the student...
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    The university should tell you in it's publications what your £9000 guarantees, and this is what it should guarantee. If you expect it to confer you the right to anything else you are being foolish.
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    No, of course not. That makes your degree worthless- you've bought it, not earned it. Why would anyone respect that type of degree?

    And also, you only pay the £9000 if you come from a very wealthy family, few students will be paying it. It means that the richer students pay more so the poorer students can have a University education that they deserve without hauling themselves into debt.

    But to answer your question? No, I'd rather have no degree than a degree I bought.

    Also, if you cannot spell "guarantee" maybe you shouldn't be thinking of University at all. We have this amazing invention called "spell check".
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    I thought you were gonna say 'a job', and I had a smart arsed answer ready for you...but you didnt.
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by ken2)
    a first class upper or a 2:1 degree after completion?

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-I9100
    No - but it should guarantee you decent contact time with the lecturers. It should guarantee you up to date facilities and it should mean that you have a qualification that will give you greater access to decent jobs and not just a worthless piece if paper for a mickey mouse subject
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by ken2)
    a first class upper or a 2:1 degree after completion?

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-I9100

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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by Javilionaire)
    haha
  10. ken2's Avatar
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    I meant studywise, extra support from lecturers, perhaps better library facilities, frequent free trips to firms, plants etc thus comparing theoretical analysis to the practical!
    That's what i meant not "buying" the degree...

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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    £9000 should guarantee you sit exams, are given essays, have adequate contact time with teachers, and have adequate facilities. That's about it.
  12. ken2's Avatar
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    (Original post by morecambebay)
    I thought you were gonna say 'a job', and I had a smart arsed answer ready for you...but you didnt.
    Well then 'a job,'
    the floor is yours!

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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by ken2)
    I meant studywise, extra support from lecturers, perhaps better library facilities, frequent free trips to firms, plants etc thus comparing theoretical analysis to the practical!
    That's what i meant not "buying" the degree...

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-I9100
    Still no. The universities funding haven't changed at all, your just being required to pay more of what the government usually funds for you.
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    As the leader of my course said on the first day:

    "You're not paying for a degree, you're paying for the opportunity to study for a degree."

    I agree with him. Your money pays for the facilities and the tuition, along with support ... but money only gets you so far, and you need to put in the effort to get the class you want.
    Last edited by TheSownRose; 04-07-2012 at 18:24.
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    A 2:1 is the sign of the amount of hard work, depth of understanding and intelligence you have. Not how much cash you have borrowed.
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by Poppy-Fields)

    And also, you only pay the £9000 if you come from a very wealthy family, few students will be paying it. It means that the richer students pay more so the poorer students can have a University education that they deserve without hauling themselves into debt.
    .
    I didnt know this.. Where did you get this info
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by Poppy-Fields)

    And also, you only pay the £9000 if you come from a very wealthy family, few students will be paying it. It means that the richer students pay more so the poorer students can have a University education that they deserve without hauling themselves into debt.
    Interesting theory

    Some students from low income families may have bursaries that reduce their fees

    But the vast majority will have £9k per year tuition fees
  18. Dan1909's Avatar
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by zaliack)
    Still no. The universities funding haven't changed at all, your just being required to pay more of what the government usually funds for you.
    Sadly, this isn't true! A lot of universities have taken massive funding cuts across the board, even with the increased fees from students. They're getting a fair chunk less money than they were before!
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Interesting theory

    Some students from low income families may have bursaries that reduce their fees

    But the vast majority will have £9k per year tuition fees
    As they (and indeed everyone, if anyone) should - repayment of the tuition fee loan is entirely dependent on future earnings, not family background.
  20. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: Could or should paying £9000 a year gaurantee...
    (Original post by CurlyBen)
    As they (and indeed everyone, if anyone) should - repayment of the tuition fee loan is entirely dependent on future earnings, not family background.
    Agreed
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