[AceStacks]

Alcohol:

I Cor 6:9-10 - "A drunkard cannot inherit the kingdom of God"

Rom 13:13 - "Carousing and drunkenness is improper behavior"

Proverbs 20:1 - "Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise"

Swine:

Leviticus 11:7-8 - "And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

The evidence is clear so why don't Christians admit to their sins?

[333allicsirp]

I think the problem is with drunkenness, rather than alcohol itself - Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine.
Also I think the swine thing - as with many Old Testament laws - is disregarded because of something said in the New Testament... I don't know exactly what or where though, sorry.

[Architecture-er]

(Original post by AceStacks)
Alcohol:

I Cor 6:9-10 - "A drunkard cannot inherit the kingdom of God"

Rom 13:13 - "Carousing and drunkenness is improper behavior"

Proverbs 20:1 - "Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise"

Swine:

Leviticus 11:7-8 - "And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

The evidence is clear so why don't Christians admit to their sins?

If you can't see the difference between drinking alcohol and being a drunkard then I despair for you..

And Leviticus' rules on food prohibition is seen as related to the times, when pig would've been far more unhygienic and disease-ridden.

edit: I think I remember something when Jesus said "it's not what goes into one's mouth that is important, but what comes out"

[Hobo389]

Show me a Christian who thinks the entire bible is a true story and i'll show you a liar (or an idiot, just to cover all the bases).

[Huz]

(Original post by AceStacks)
Alcohol:

I Cor 6:9-10 - "A drunkard cannot inherit the kingdom of God"

Rom 13:13 - "Carousing and drunkenness is improper behavior"

Proverbs 20:1 - "Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, And whoever is intoxicated by it is not wise"

Swine:

Leviticus 11:7-8 - "And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

The evidence is clear so why don't Christians admit to their sins?

I think you're trying to cause trouble with this. Although i agree Christians follow the wrong religion.

Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. How can God have a son

[NuckingFut]

In b4 .exe

[AceStacks]

(Original post by Architecture-er)
If you can't see the difference between drinking alcohol and being a drunkard then I despair for you..

And Leviticus' rules on food prohibition is seen as related to the times, when pig would've been far more unhygienic and disease-ridden.

edit: I think I remember something when Jesus said "it's not what goes into one's mouth that is important, but what comes out"

There are loads of verses throughout the Bible that deal with swine not just that one from Leviticus.

[AceStacks]

(Original post by Huz)
I think you're trying to cause trouble with this. Although i agree Christians follow the wrong religion.

Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. How can God have a son

Not at all, i'm just trying to point something out and hear peoples opinions.

[Bill_Gates]

its very easy to tax alcohol.

[Felisto]

There are some practical reasons behind this "religious" rules. They have to do with the features of the region the religions were created in:

alcohol + heat = bad for your heart
pork + heat = spoils quickly; pork was generally once a very dangerous kind of food due to germs

Those rules made sense and they still make sense in some hot regions without food controls and certain hygenic standards.

[Zenzic]

Because that would make pretty much every christian celebration boring and uneventful. Who wouldn't want a nice beer with a bratwurst (Besides Jews, Muslims and vegetarians).

[.eXe]

Read carefully the quotes you posted OP.

It's not wine that's the culprit but rather..too much of it. Drunkenness is the issue, not wine itself.

[placenta medicae talpae]

Because most Christians don't actually follow Christ.
How many Sabbath-observing Christians do you find these days?

The Christianity they observe is nothing more than disguised Paganism.

[timeofflight]

Acts 10:9-17 says, “On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, what God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven."

[umarrehman187]

christians like picking and choosing for thier own benefit...they like swine so they say oh no OT was before jesus came...they dnt follow one strict rule..sometimes jesus is god sometimes he is son,, sometimes he is dead sometimes this....just pciking and choosing....

[boba]

(Original post by Huz)
I think you're trying to cause trouble with this. Although i agree Christians follow the wrong religion.

Jesus was a prophet, but not the son of God. How can God have a son

I'm not even religious but that bolded part is just stupid. Assuming for the sake of this that God is real, he is omnipotent. That means that he is all powerful and can do anything. of course he could have a son

[.eXe]

(Original post by umarrehman187)
christians like picking and choosing for thier own benefit...they like swine so they say oh no OT was before jesus came...they dnt follow one strict rule..sometimes jesus is god sometimes he is son,, sometimes he is dead sometimes this....just pciking and choosing....

What the hell are you talking about kid?

[dr-jimmy]

There's a lot of **** in the bible that's been glossed over.

[AceStacks]

(Original post by .eXe)
Read carefully the quotes you posted OP.

It's not wine that's the culprit but rather..too much of it. Drunkenness is the issue, not wine itself.

Ok well lets rephrase the question, why do most Christians have no problem with getting drunk?

[Architecture-er]

(Original post by boba)
I'm not even religious but that bolded part is just stupid. Assuming for the sake of this that God is real, he is omnipotent. That means that he is all powerful and can do anything. of course he could have a son

(Original post by Huz)
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Well God doesn't have a son, you two should check out the Trinity, the idea is that it's just God, but he has three parts to him. Jesus wasn't God's blood son, he was a part of God's psyche that is subordinate to the Father part.