The Earth would be far better off without humans.
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The Earth would be far better off without humans.
Does anyone else think the Earth would be far better off without humans? No other species does horrible things such as industrialising no other species build hideous nuclear weapons. No other species follow religions the majority of which are hateful monotheistic religions more than polytheistic. I think its fair to say humanity is a virus with shoes.
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Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.Someone's been watching The Matrix(Original post by Rational Thinker)
Does anyone else think the Earth would be far better off without humans? No other species does horrible things such as industrialising no other species build hideous nuclear weapons. No other species follow religions the majority of which are hateful monotheistic religions more than polytheistic. I think its fair to say humanity is a virus with shoes.
Humanity isn't the problem, people are. It gets a bit 'greenpeace' but if we stopped beating the **** out of each other then this wouldn't be such a problem. It is easily possible to live sustainably on this planet, as a species, just a lot of adults would lose their 'get rich quick' industries. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.This. 'Better' according to whom? Animals couldn't care less and the planet isn't sentient.(Original post by blu tack)
The Earth doesn't care if there are humans on it or not. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.Bloody treehugger.(Original post by Rational Thinker)
Does anyone else think the Earth would be far better off without humans? No other species does horrible things such as industrialising no other species build hideous nuclear weapons. No other species follow religions the majority of which are hateful monotheistic religions more than polytheistic. I think its fair to say humanity is a virus with shoes.
But yes it's true however what are you going to do?! -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.
I feel that there are certainly a large amount of people who do not deserve to live on this planet due to the terrible things that they have done. Why cant we just al get along and not do such stupid things like building nuclear weapons and waging war on each other.
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Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.
I'm not sure about the Earth's emotional wellbeing, but I am becoming ever more of a misanthrope (or, to coin a term, misbie), so I do think that sentient life is generally a bad development (even though we're evolutionarily programmed to think otherwise). There's quite an interesting, though depressing, philosophical book which adumbrates this line of reasoning here: http://books.google.co.uk/books/abou...d=-6UbHqrdWy4C
There's also a group devoted to "voluntary human extinction", whose website is a good read even if only for entertainment or shock value: http://www.vhemt.org/Last edited by faber niger; 04-07-2012 at 18:31. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.
Yes animals do care considering people are destroying many animal habitats per day. I have never seen the Matrix. Humans could lie sustainably but considering that humans have for the last thousand years been more and more destructive they need to start soon. As for the "bloody treehugger" is that supposed to be a insult I regard it as a compliment trees are vital to the environment and should be given as much as people so should animals.
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Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.Regardless that it doesn't care about us... it still could mean that the Earth would be better off without us. The two are not mutually exclusive.(Original post by blu tack)
The Earth doesn't care if there are humans on it or not. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.What is 'better' for the Earth though? The only things you could come up with are framed in human terms- less pollution or more forests or whatever. Why would that matter for the Earth?(Original post by Welsh_insomniac)
Regardless that it doesn't care about us... it still could mean that the Earth would be better off without us. The two are not mutually exclusive. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.
What is 'better' for the Earth though? The only things you could come up with are framed in human terms- less pollution or more forests or whatever. Why would that matter for the Earth?
How about because less pollution means less damage to the Earth. And more forests = more habitats and also trees reduce the amount of harmful gasses. -
Re: The Earth would be far better off without humans.
I think you could make an argument that the animal kingdom would be better off without humans, but then it would also be better off without mosquitoes. I don't think we really have to justify our existence; nature is one giant fight for survival, we're just a lot more capable of doing massive damage than sharks, bears and crocodiles. At least however we are the one animal that is capable of guilt and a conscience about any damage that we do; sharks chomp through surfers and don't (and can't) really give a crap.
