[Bright.Inspiration.]

(Original post by notsure)
NO! it's not horrible on women's rights! im a women and follow islam and it actually shows a lot of respect to women and gives us many rights! Just because islam doesn't allow us to parade around streets wearing clothes which is technically showing EVERYTHING! doesn't mean its bad on women's rights! People think women's rights is just about being able to do this and that without thinking about the negatives of it!

Many women, including me, like to wear shorts, skirts, dresses etc. Many women may want to 'parade around wearing clothes that show everything'. There is nothing wrong with that. Sharia and other religion based 'laws' would prevent women from having the freedom to do this, which I believe is wrong.

[Id and Ego seek]

(Original post by Love4All)
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No he wouldn't be punished because God is all-merciful and why God would punish someone for something that he/she had to do out of necessity. Beside that, under Shariah law, forgiveness comes first.

Aren't you the same person that said openly homosexual couples would be punished under this all-merciful God's law? Why would God punish someone for something he/she has no control over?

[Gofre]

(Original post by Love4All)
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No he wouldn't be punished because God is all-merciful and why God would punish someone for something that he/she had to do out of necessity. Beside that, under Shariah law, forgiveness comes first.

Could the same not be said for homosexuality? It harms nobody and humans have a biological imperative to seek companionship in the form of a "mate". What feasible reason could there be for punishing them?

[Love4All]

(Original post by Id and Ego seek)
Aren't you the same person that said openly homosexual couples would be punished under this all-merciful God's law? Why would God punish someone for something he/she has no control over?

What makes you think that homosexual people have no control?

[Gofre]

(Original post by Love4All)
What makes you think that homosexual people have no control?

You know that bullying you pointed out earlier? They don't go through all of that for the fun of it.

[Inverse]

(Original post by wwelol)
oh yh thats easy isiny it - if i had the money i would buy a lamborghani

not so easy is it

What? Please learn how to construct a coherent sentence. It is easy, if you live in a country, you abide by its laws. Shariah laws will never be put to use in Europe, so you either abide by our rules or get out.

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[killa78]

(Original post by Gofre)
That didn't answer my question, is apostasy punished under Sharia?

I also fail to see why barbaric punishments are any less barbaric because they're only applicable to Muslims.

Yeah it's punished under certain conditions.

And I fail to see how you'd be affected by sharia if you're not Muslim.

I wasn't looking to answer your question anyway, I was just stating that your question about apostasy isn't really relevant with regards to shariah and you.

[Gofre]

(Original post by killa78)
Yeah it's punished under certain conditions.

And I fail to see how you'd be affected by sharia if you're not Muslim.

I wasn't looking to answer your question anyway, I was just stating that your question about apostasy isn't really relevant with regards to shariah and you.

Do I have to affected by something personally to be outraged by its injustices? I'm equally against the practice of female genital mutilation performed in parts of Africa. Injustice is injustice regardless of who it's applied to.

[Felchingman]

OP are you for real? I mean, what the f?
Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia to say such a thing?
I'm breathless.

[Love4All]

(Original post by Gofre)
You know that bullying you pointed out earlier? They don't go through all of that for the fun of it.

That was someone else, not me.
Anyway, you've made a valid point but i see homosexuality as a mental illness and i don't think homosexuality is natural and if it was natural then gays would be able to have children. If we allow homosexuality then human race would go extinct.

[Gofre]

(Original post by Love4All)
That was someone else, not me.
Anyway, you've made a valid point but i see homosexuality as a mental illness and i don't think homosexuality is natural and if it was natural then gays would be able to have children. If we allow homosexuality then human race would go extinct.

This is some really poor reasoning. Being unable to breed makes something unnatural? Infertility is a widespread issue amongst heterosexual people for a whole horde of reasons, and basically becomes inevitable as we age. Measuring the worth of a person/relationship by their capacity to breed is entirely arbitrary.

[Inverse]

(Original post by Algorithm69)
A treatment for Islam will be available long before. It'll be called an education

made me laugh, you trashed him.

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[Bukhatir]

(Original post by lucaf)
unless you are a woman or gay or non muslim

yeah, you really do think twice if the deal is too sweet

[matt41]

(Original post by Love4All)
That was someone else, not me.
Anyway, you've made a valid point but i see homosexuality as a mental illness and i don't think homosexuality is natural and if it was natural then gays would be able to have children. If we allow homosexuality then human race would go extinct.

I post infrequently here but I am always saddened by this veiwpoint.
Something being 'not natural' would be that, not found to be in nature and many animals take part in homosexual acts so that rules that one out.
As homosexuality has not 'died out' this would imply that it is a natural occurrence.

So you are saying homosexuality is from, an unstable or illness of the mind, and thus can be cured? These thoughs are archaic.

Why can't people stop judging others because they are different

What are you so afraid of, do you think you made a choice to be hetro, what if your 'natural state' was to find the same sex attractive?

Can you try to put youself in someone elses shoes?

Live and let live.
Or grow up and think for yourself, without needed some imaginary higher power to give you a mandate to judge people who are different to your norm.

[killa78]

(Original post by Gofre)
Do I have to affected by something personally to be outraged by its injustices? I'm equally against the practice of female genital mutilation performed in parts of Africa. Injustice is injustice regardless of who it's applied to.

Do you know what you have to do before being killed as an apostate?

[Gofre]

(Original post by killa78)
Do you know what you have to do before being killed as an apostate?

If I remember correctly you have to begin actively speaking out against Islam?

[Flash7]

(Original post by Love4All)
That was someone else, not me.
Anyway, you've made a valid point but i see homosexuality as a mental illness and i don't think homosexuality is natural and if it was natural then gays would be able to have children. If we allow homosexuality then human race would go extinct.

Just because we allow homosexuality does not mean that the human race would go extinct. People who are not gay (which is still the vast majority of people), would continue to breed.

[Algorithm69]

(Original post by killa78)
Do you know what you have to do before being killed as an apostate?

Not even Muslim scholars can agree. So much for your perfect, coherent, divinely inspired legal system, huh?

[flutterby23]

(Original post by Kosmos)
But not as many rights as men, just because you have a lot of rights doesn't mean it's justifiable. For example, slaves had "a lot of rights" but that doesn't justify being a slave. And you've proved it "Islam doesn't allow us to parade around streets wearing clothes which is technically showing EVERYTHING!", surely it should be down to the woman to decide what she wants to do, it doesn't affect anyone, I'm sure men are allowed to do it. Why shouldn't women be treated exactly the same as men?

"I'm sure men are allowed to do it".

This statement is incorrect, men in Islam have certain rules which they must follow too, including rulings on what they are allowed to reveal in public

[killa78]

(Original post by Gofre)
If I remember correctly you have to begin actively speaking out against Islam?

Yes. And this is classed as treason due to the surrounding circumstance ie Islamic state.

If you know the law says actively speaking out will lead to your death, why would you do it?

You can be an apostate, just don't be an idiot about it. It's like a drug dealer telling the police he's dealing.

It's a difference of viewpoint whether it's injustice or not but even I wouldn't (if I became an apostate) announce it to the world.