[Jack22031994]

(Original post by Yolofied)
Bad because no one would follow it... Especially in the UK! Plus I know quite a few muslims that dont follow it either which I think is disrespectful :/


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So what about Christians who don't follow the ten commandments or EVERY word of the bible exactly


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[Yolofied]

(Original post by Jack22031994)
So what about Christians who don't follow the ten commandments or EVERY word of the bible exactly


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I agree! But European countries have been christian for a long time and have tolerated nonsense by christians who dont follow what the bible teaches them. Because ppl are used to this hardly anyone would follow the sharia law...


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[Jack22031994]

(Original post by Yolofied)
I agree! But European countries have been christian for a long time and have tolerated nonsense by christians who dont follow what the bible teaches them. Because ppl are used to this hardly anyone would follow the sharia law...


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Well that's good as if every relgious person followed their book to the exact word they would all be like the loons St the westboro baptist church


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[Pinkhead]

After reading the posts by some muslims on this thread, I honestly feel disgusted. Obviously it's not everyone, but how can people be so selfish?
We are living in the 21st century and people still have such backward views?
Pathetic.

[Inverse]

(Original post by Pinkhead)
After reading the posts by some muslims on this thread, I honestly feel disgusted. Obviously it's not everyone, but how can people be so selfish?
We are living in the 21st century and people still have such backward views?
Pathetic.

It's hilarious. The Muslims who move here to get away from whatever they dislike about their country and then absurdly want to impose their impractical, nonsensical shariah laws in the country they chose to move to are troglodytes.

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[xXxiKillxXx]

(Original post by doggyfizzel)
The law means nothing if it isn't enforced, which is exactly the case in Saudi. Domestic abuse goes unnoticed because the vast majority of victims don't have the same legal standing in society, children, women and foreign workers. They may have harsher punishments, not really relevant if you aren't punished.

Ermm don't think you know much. Lets compare some cases shall we?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-attack.html

This British man GOUGED his girlfriends eyes out, broke her jaw and then imprisoned her for the next 12 hours (the latter amounting to torture).. What sentence did he receive? 6 years. YES I KNOW that it is a minimum of 6 years and he COULD be detained for more than that in the secure hospital (which gives even more freedom to ''inmates'' than the hotels known as British prisons), but the reality remains that he is likely to be on the streets in 12 years..

Now lets look at a Saudi case:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83M10L20120423

This Saudi man beat up his step-mother; no he didn't gouge her eyes out or leave her with ANY long-term injuries, he just beat her up (note; I am using the word 'just' not to make his crime appear acceptable, but to contrast between the severity of the eye gouging crime and this one). He was sentenced to 3 years and 200 lashes. However, he is STILL in prison 15 years on.. And Saudi prisons aren't nowhere near as luxurious as British secure hospitals lol *SMH*

(Original post by Inverse)
If people want shariah law, they should just go back to where it exists, that ****ing simple.

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''Go back''? <<<Care to explain?

[killa78]

(Original post by Inverse)
It's hilarious. The Muslims who move here to get away from whatever they dislike about their country and then absurdly want to impose their impractical, nonsensical shariah laws in the country they chose to move to are troglodytes.

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Which muslim, on this thread, has said that they want shariah imposed on all the british citizens?

[xXxiKillxXx]

(Original post by Inverse)
It's hilarious. The Muslims who move here to get away from whatever they dislike about their country and then absurdly want to impose their impractical, nonsensical shariah laws in the country they chose to move to are troglodytes.

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Not all Muslims who want to impose Shariah law were born abroad though? Some of them are even White Brits.

[doggyfizzel]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Ermm don't think you know much. Lets compare some cases shall we?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-attack.html

This British man GOUGED his girlfriends eyes out, broke her jaw and then imprisoned her for the next 12 hours (the latter amounting to torture).. What sentence did he receive? 6 years. YES I KNOW that it is a minimum of 6 years and he COULD be detained for more than that in the secure hospital (which gives even more freedom to ''inmates'' than the hotels known as British prisons), but the reality remains that he is likely to be on the streets in 12 years..

Now lets look at a Saudi case:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...83M10L20120423

This Saudi man beat up his step-mother; no he didn't gouge her eyes out or leave her with ANY long-term injuries, he just beat her up (note; I am using the word 'just' not to make his crime appear acceptable, but to contrast between the severity of the eye gouging crime and this one). He was sentenced to 3 years and 200 lashes. However, he is STILL in prison 15 years on.. And Saudi prisons aren't nowhere near as luxurious as British secure hospitals lol *SMH*

All of what you have written is proving Saudi punishments are harsher, which is exactly what the last line of what you have quoted showed. All the articles prove is the Saudi system is stupid, the prisoner remains there based on nothing to do with his crime, nothing to do with whether he is a danger to the public, only whether someone who is not legally qualified and someone who is not even the victim feels he should be let out. You clearly don't know how to argue you haven't refuted any of the points I made, so I'll enforce them for you. Here is report by the US gov on Saudi. Its not new, but seeing as there having been any sweeping reforms it still serves purpose.

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The following significant human rights problems were reported: no right to change the government peacefully; torture and physical abuse; poor prison and detention center conditions; arbitrary arrest and incommunicado detention; denial of fair and public trials and lack of due process in the judicial system; political prisoners; restrictions on civil liberties such as freedoms of speech (including the Internet), assembly, association, movement, and severe restrictions on religious freedom; and corruption and lack of government transparency. Violence against women and a lack of equal rights for women, violations of the rights of children, trafficking in persons, and discrimination on the basis of gender, religion, sect, and ethnicity were common. The lack of workers' rights, including the employment sponsorship system, remained a severe problem.

There were reports that rape and other sexual abuses were widespread during confinement in both men's and women's detention centers and prisons. Although there were some female guards in women's prisons, their supervisors were men. In 2009 local human rights watchers reported that prisoners had been sexually abused in the Buraida Prison in Qassim but did not alert prison authorities due to the stigma and penalties associated with homosexual activities.

The Basic Law provides that a person's actions may not be restricted and a person may not be imprisoned, except under provisions of the law. Nonetheless, because of ambiguous implementation of the law and a lack of due process, the MOI, to which all forces with arrest power report, maintained broad powers to arrest and detain persons indefinitely without judicial oversight or effective access to legal counsel or family. In practice authorities held persons for weeks, months, and (sometimes) for years.

Rape is a punishable criminal offense under Sharia with a wide range of penalties from flogging to execution. Generally the government enforced the law based on its interpretation of Sharia, and courts punished both the victim and the perpetrator. The government views marital relations between spouses as contractual and did not recognize spousal rape. By law a female rape victim is at fault for illegal "mixing of genders" and is punished along with the perpetrator.

There were no laws criminalizing violence against women. Officials stated that the government did not clearly define domestic violence and that procedures concerning cases, and accordingly enforcement, varied from one government body to another.

Women also faced discrimination in courts, where the testimony of one man equals that of two women.

So summarise, there are huge failings across large part of the Saudi justice system(1st Para), you can be imprisoned for any length of time by someone not involved in the legal judgement system. Things like rape will often go unreported due to the victim being punished, so what ever punishment is there for the perpetrator is worthless. Finally the rights of women in such domestic violence cases are limited and in an court their views and statements aren't even worthy of equal legal standing.

How about addressing some of those points with backing rather than just posting random articles.

[Inverse]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Not all Muslims who want to impose Shariah law were born abroad though? Some of them are even White Brits.

If you learned how to read, you would see that I had typed "the Muslims" and not "all Muslims", so I was only referring to those who were born abroad.

[xXxiKillxXx]

(Original post by Inverse)
If you learned how to read, you would see that I had typed "the Muslims" and not "all Muslims", so I was only referring to those who were born abroad.

Tbh, most of the Muslims who are actively campaigning for Shariah Law in the UK are born here anyway. Take Anjem Choudhry and his Islam4UK group for an example..

[Jack22031994]

(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Tbh, most of the Muslims who are actively campaigning for Shariah Law in the UK are born here anyway. Take Anjem Choudhry and his Islam4UK group for an example..

Did you know he gets over £20,000
From the British tax payer in social security benefits a year


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[janet9]

[Florrick]

(Original post by Inverse)
It's hilarious. The Muslims who move here to get away from whatever they dislike about their country and then absurdly want to impose their impractical, nonsensical shariah laws in the country they chose to move to are troglodytes.

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Muslims move not because of Shariah.
Likewise, I don't believe the mass migration of Indian Hindus to the UAE or Saudi Arabia or Oman or Malaysia move there because of Shariah.

I think it's to a large extent, job prospects and standard of living, their own government has not adequately provided.

[mariachi]

(Original post by Yolofied)
I agree! But European countries have been christian for a long time and have tolerated nonsense by christians who dont follow what the bible teaches them. Because ppl are used to this hardly anyone would follow the sharia law...

yes, this is true...

however, a few stonings here and there... some amputations, a few eye-gougings, generalized floggings...and people will start thinking twice before sinning and abandoning the path set out by Allah for humankind

let those sinners feel the sting of the lash on their shoulders, and they will start to think and act much, much more morally, and compliance with Shariah will skyrocket to new heights

and let there be no compulsion in matters of religion

best

[Azaro]

(Original post by Florrick)
Muslims move not because of Shariah.
Likewise, I don't believe the mass migration of Indian Hindus to the UAE or Saudi Arabia or Oman or Malaysia move there because of Shariah.

I think it's to a large extent, job prospects and standard of living, their own government has not adequately provided.

muslims cant govern countries, thats why they have dictators with iron fists.

[Florrick]

(Original post by Azaro)
muslims cant govern countries, thats why they have dictators with iron fists.

As far as I'm aware, the dictators are Muslim too but serve other interests first and foremost than their own population and so this requires dictatorship.

Hopefully this will change to Muslim interests like it has done in the past.

[JacobW]

In other words, is destroying every vestige of a country's values, culture, constitution, and heritage in the name of a foreign religion or a good or a bad thing? Now that's a tough one...

[Study]

(Original post by Rational Thinker)
Proof Islam is retarded by the amount of negs to all the good points raised

To be fairly honest you don't even who exactly is negging, you can only guess it is muslims or w/e.
And what is a "Good" point differs from person to person.

You make me lol irl.

Apparently negging posts on the student rooms shows a religion is retarded.

[Study]

(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Its a stupid and primitive set of laws.

Looking to somewhere like Saudi who's laws are based around classic sharia law.

Crime in Saudi is on the rise particularly amongst the youth. It has a history of corruption at all levels. Domestic abuse is high. Crime is only as issue if you are committing it and poor.

Fornication, lol, that's why there are all the filthy curb crawling peados in Saudi, thats why all the rich Saudi's are out in Western clubs. There is plenty of fornication, they just prefer to keep the women locked up.

Education across the Muslim world is far superior to here, no wait, only if you are rich, which in most cases means educated in the West or in private schools by Westerners.

Unemployment in Saudi is higher than here. There is a huge level of unemployment and stable jobs across many Arab states.

Don't how you figure the last one, seeing as the practising of other religions is banned in most of those countries. Sharia law and liberalism aren't really a mix.

It would be terrible.

When they actually used to follow religion it was the other way around.
By it I mean education btw.