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Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeDoes anyone else get extremely annoyed when you send in your official original degree transcript, and the provider of the PGCE says:
"It is not clear if this is an original certified transcript - we cannot accept it, please send blah blah through the post....."
I mean how F'ing ridiculous. Where the Hell am I going to get such a thing If I had not got the degree? I won't name this well known provider, but will say the Admissions Department leave a lot to be desired.
Surely if they don't accept it, they should be taking me to court as I must be trying to fiddle the system? Complete joke, and asking people to bring/send yet more things through the post at MY OWN expense is a disgrace. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeYes I do, but photocopies not allowed, must be original, so yes I could send it but I won't trust the post with something like that (£25+ to replace). I could take it into the provider, but have told them will only do that if the provider pays the travel costs.(Original post by charminggirl)
Do you have a degree certificate? Couldn't you photocopy that and send that? Or scan it to them?
I have tried to convince them that It was the original that I sent, and so they are now reassessing it, so hopefully they will just accept it! -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeSeems a bit annoying that photocopies aren't accepted. That's what I used for my provider. Good luck anyway!(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Yes I do, but photocopies not allowed, must be original, so yes I could send it but I won't trust the post with something like that (£25+ to replace). I could take it into the provider, but have told them will only do that if the provider pays the travel costs.
I have tried to convince them that It was the original that I sent, and so they are now reassessing it, so hopefully they will just accept it!
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeAnybody with a bit of photoshop skills could EASILY forge a "photocopy" of a transcript.(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Yes I do, but photocopies not allowed, must be original, so yes I could send it but I won't trust the post with something like that (£25+ to replace). I could take it into the provider, but have told them will only do that if the provider pays the travel costs.
I have tried to convince them that It was the original that I sent, and so they are now reassessing it, so hopefully they will just accept it!
Any institution worth their money would want to check the original documents to verify their authenticity. I don't see why that angers you so much?
Anyway, I'm fairly sure most unis offer transcripts free to current students, usually up to 5 or 10, and only charge graduates. If you were smart, you would have done what I did and ordered the maximum number of free transcripts that you could before you graduated, and then you'd have a plentiful stockpile of originals that you can mail for situations like these.
If you never thought of that, then too bad, you'll have to pay £25 for a replacement. Boo hoo. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeAt my uni transcripts aren't free at all.(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Anybody with a bit of photoshop skills could EASILY forge a "photocopy" of a transcript.
Any institution worth their money would want to check the original documents to verify their authenticity. I don't see why that angers you so much?
Anyway, I'm fairly sure most unis offer transcripts free to current students, usually up to 5 or 10, and only charge graduates. If you were smart, you would have done what I did and ordered the maximum number of free transcripts that you could before you graduated, and then you'd have a plentiful stockpile of originals that you can mail for situations like these.
If you never thought of that, then too bad, you'll have to pay £25 for a replacement. Boo hoo. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeOh well. Tough doodles!(Original post by charminggirl)
At my uni transcripts aren't free at all. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeA tad pessimistic, aren't we?(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Oh well. Tough doodles!
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeNot really what I would call pessimism.
There's just no point crying over spilt milk. If a transcript costs £25 and your provider REQUIRES an original copy of a transcript, then you're just going to HAVE to pay £25, aren't you?
No point debating it and throwing a strop, especially when they have perfectly valid reasons for wanting to see originals. If I was a provider, the fact that somebody would argue so strongly against having to send originals would only increase my suspicions of them. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeKk, I'm just messin' around. Fair point, shame about the £25. My sympathies OP.(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Not really what I would call pessimism.
There's just no point crying over spilt milk. If a transcript costs £25 and your provider REQUIRES an original copy of a transcript, then you're just going to HAVE to pay £25, aren't you?
No point debating it and throwing a strop, especially when they have perfectly valid reasons for wanting to see originals. If I was a provider, the fact that somebody would argue so strongly against having to send originals would only increase my suspicions of them. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeI have no problem paying for them, and have done in the past when I needed them. I agree with you that if he has to pay he has to pay, but there's no need to make broad statements which aren't true. Some places clearly charge for them, and in your case they didn't. It's not a big deal.(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Oh well. Tough doodles! -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degree(Original post by pi=3)
Kk, I'm just messin' around. Fair point, shame about the £25. My sympathies OP.Both of you have not read the original post properly. nobody is having to pay money. I have an original transcript and sent it to them. They are tyring to say they dont believe it is original. That is the issue. They won't take me to court though, so they are just being a nuisance.(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Not really what I would call pessimism.
There's just no point crying over spilt milk. If a transcript costs £25 and your provider REQUIRES an original copy of a transcript, then you're just going to HAVE to pay £25, aren't you?
No point debating it and throwing a strop, especially when they have perfectly valid reasons for wanting to see originals. If I was a provider, the fact that somebody would argue so strongly against having to send originals would only increase my suspicions of them. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeYou know, I never had to send originals at all, I showed them at the actual interviews to the people doing them and then they made their own photocopies there come to think of it.
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeYes mate, taking in the original transcript/cert is an option, but it's one I won't do anyway unless they pay the travel costs, which I don't think they will. Anyway I sent original transcript, so that should suffice.(Original post by robo donkey)
You know, I never had to send originals at all, I showed them at the actual interviews to the people doing them and then they made their own photocopies there come to think of it.
The issue is getting them to accept what is original transcript that I sent, they think it may not be original, so I am wating for the head of admissions to give his/her take on it, and get back to me. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeWhy don't you just send the degree certificate recorded delivery? That won't cost anywhere near £25, and the university can send it back to you by the same method so you don't need to worry about it getting lost in the post.
In answer to your original question, the transcript that you sent is perhaps not an 'official' one. Some universities will not accept a basic transcript as evidence of a degree and will want a transcript that has been stamped/watermarked/signed in some way. I had that problem when applying for another course a few years ago as my transcripts were basically just pieces of paper with a letter head on that anyone could produce. I had to order an official watermarked one from university and pay for the privilege. Seems unfair but at the end of the day, forgery does happen and it's pretty easy to do, so they have to be strict about it. I'd double check what the university means by an original transcript, and check you actually have the type they want. It may be that this comes at a cost to you - you'll just have to suck it up, I'm afraid. -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degree1) Recorded delivery is put with all the normal post, the only difference is a signature is required the other end. It is therefore no safer, and can still get lost/chewed up in the machine (happened to a card someone sent my mum a few months back, came back with half the card missing). Special Delivery is a different kettle of fish, and is safer, but probably costs more than taking the cert. into the provider!(Original post by rachelsays)
Why don't you just send the degree certificate recorded delivery? That won't cost anywhere near £25, and the university can send it back to you by the same method so you don't need to worry about it getting lost in the post.
I had that problem when applying for another course a few years ago as my transcripts were basically just pieces of paper with a letter head on that anyone could produce.
2) The one I sent has uni logo and a signature, which people cannot just "produce", so they should accept it in my view -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeSpecial delivery should work out to around £5, you can also include a self-addressed envelope which has pre-paid special delivery and tell the uni to post it back in that.(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
1) Recorded delivery is put with all the normal post, the only difference is a signature is required the other end. It is therefore no safer, and can still get lost/chewed up in the machine (happened to a card someone sent my mum a few months back, came back with half the card missing). Special Delivery is a different kettle of fish, and is safer, but probably costs more than taking the cert. into the provider!
2) The one I sent has uni logo and a signature, which people cannot just "produce", so they should accept it in my view -
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Re: Providers stupidly rejecting evidence of degreeI can probably get the train ticket for less than that, so I would probably take it in myself, could also keep my eye on it at all times, even safer than Special Delivery.(Original post by SHABANA)
Special delivery should work out to around £5, you can also include a self-addressed envelope which has pre-paid special delivery and tell the uni to post it back in that.
But anyway I want them to accept this transcript, so hopefully next week will get the green light, if not, will do whatever is cheapest
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I had to replace a load of my GCSE and A level certificates because they misspelled my middle name. They charged me over £60 even though it was their/my schools mistake because I left it too long before I got it sorted.(Original post by robo donkey)
I had to pay about £100 to get all my GCSE certificates again, sad times
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