[StarBabyCat]

I think you should just post it- I had to post my daughter's birth certificate to Student Finance England and that's a more precious document to me than my degree certificates! They've sent it back. It's just one of those things.

[adi2pgce]

Normal first or second class mail is insured for up to £46 anyway.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by StarBabyCat)
I think you should just post it- I had to post my daughter's birth certificate to Student Finance England and that's a more precious document to me than my degree certificates! They've sent it back. It's just one of those things.

Still waiting for a response as to whether my original transcript is acceptable. Very poor admissions department. Maybe they have connections with Student Finance

[JoannaMilano]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
I can probably get the train ticket for less than that, so I would probably take it in myself, could also keep my eye on it at all times, even safer than Special Delivery.

But anyway I want them to accept this transcript, so hopefully next week will get the green light, if not, will do whatever is cheapest

I thought you were being a brat refusing to follow their guidelines and submit the document they want, and insisting they pay travel expenses for you to hand the certificate in person, but maybe had a point if it was an expensive ticket. That you're refusing to be put out less than £5 for said ticket makes you look pathetic, and I wouldn't be surprised if the provider just turned round and told you not to bother, since you can't care much about the course.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by JoannaMilano)
I thought you were being a brat refusing to follow their guidelines and submit the document they want, and insisting they pay travel expenses for you to hand the certificate in person, but maybe had a point if it was an expensive ticket. That you're refusing to be put out less than £5 for said ticket makes you look pathetic, and I wouldn't be surprised if the provider just turned round and told you not to bother, since you can't care much about the course.

Ridiculous comment. You must be a millionaire then, as throwing around money here there and everywhere is not an issue to you. You would fit in at some high street banks. Disgraceful.

[rachelsays]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Ridiculous comment. You must be a millionaire then, as throwing around money here there and everywhere is not an issue to you. You would fit in at some high street banks. Disgraceful.

He does have a point - when you're paying the fees for a PGCE - average cost seems to be full whack of 9k this year - what difference does a fiver make to ensure that you'll get your place on the course?

If you're going to be this difficult over a transcript, I dread to think how you'll actually cope with the rigours of a PGCE year!

[JoannaMilano]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Ridiculous comment. You must be a millionaire then, as throwing around money here there and everywhere is not an issue to you. You would fit in at some high street banks. Disgraceful.

Yeah, I must be a millionaire to think spending less than £5 is a drop in the ocean to get onto a course which will cost me 1800 times that in tuition fees anyway, and will give me a starting salary of 4000 times that. I'm so out of touch, it's clearly not money well invested

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by rachelsays)
He does have a point - when you're paying the fees for a PGCE - average cost seems to be full whack of 9k this year - what difference does a fiver make to ensure that you'll get your place on the course?

If you're going to be this difficult over a transcript, I dread to think how you'll actually cope with the rigours of a PGCE year!

Well the country is in many billions of pounds worth of debt, so by your reasoning, what difference will it make then if we spend a few billion on things not needed. Being a few extra billion in debt won't make any difference will it? Idiot.

Lets make the fees 11,000 then. a few thousand extra won't matter will it? it's a drop in the ocean compared to the 6,000 increase of last year. once again - idiot.

People like you being so careless is why the country is in so many problems.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by JoannaMilano)
Yeah, I must be a millionaire to think spending less than £5 is a drop in the ocean to get onto a course which will cost me 1800 times that in tuition fees anyway, and will give me a starting salary of 4000 times that. I'm so out of touch, it's clearly not money well invested

As I have told the above, It is the carelessness with money that people like you have which has brought the country into the situation it is in now.

[rachelsays]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Well the country is in many billions of pounds worth of debt, so by your reasoning, what difference will it make then if we spend a few billion on things not needed. Being a few extra billion in debt won't make any difference will it? Idiot.

Lets make the fees 11,000 then. a few thousand extra won't matter will it? it's a drop in the ocean compared to the 6,000 increase of last year. once again - idiot.

People like you being so careless is why the country is in so many problems.

I really feel for the kids you're going to be teaching if everyone who disagrees with you is automatically branded an 'idiot'. You really need to check your attitude!

The point everyone is making is that £5 really isn't a lot to spend to ensure that you are given your place on the course. Making an analogy with the current financial climate is totally irrelevant and frankly ridiculous. It's £5. Get over it.

Anyway, I don't even know why I'm bothering as you've clearly decided you know best about everything and everyone else is stupid for not agreeing with your limited world view. Once again, I pity the children you will teach. Are you just going to shout at them and call them idiots if they try and present a differing opinion to yours?!

[Ham22]

(Original post by ThisIsTheLife)
Oh well. Tough doodles!

What a bitter individual you are...

Toodle-dee!!!!!!

[Ham22]

(Original post by adi2pgce)
Normal first or second class mail is insured for up to £46 anyway.

Good luck getting Royal Mail to pay out compensation when they lose or destroy your mail.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by rachelsays)
I really feel for the kids you're going to be teaching if everyone who disagrees with you is automatically branded an 'idiot'. You really need to check your attitude!

The point everyone is making is that £5 really isn't a lot to spend to ensure that you are given your place on the course. Making an analogy with the current financial climate is totally irrelevant and frankly ridiculous. It's £5. Get over it.

Anyway, I don't even know why I'm bothering as you've clearly decided you know best about everything and everyone else is stupid for not agreeing with your limited world view. Once again, I pity the children you will teach. Are you just going to shout at them and call them idiots if they try and present a differing opinion to yours?!

Questions/opinions about how I treat students is irrelevant.

You have not read the posts properly anyway, the £5 is something another member said they would estimate as the cost of special delivery. It is not the cost of the degree certificate, and it is not the transport cost either (this is higher than £5).

The situation I am in is that my provider cannot decide whether my original degree transcript is acceptable (or if they have, they have not got back to me). As a result they are keeping hold of it, and I am in the dark as the admissions dept. are not contacting me at the moment. Very frustrating.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by Ham22)
Good luck getting Royal Mail to pay out compensation when they lose or destroy your mail.

Well said my friend. Maybe you can also knock some sense into some other members on this thread, who have no clue.

[rachelsays]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Questions/opinions about how I treat students is irrelevant.

You have not read the posts properly anyway, the £5 is something another member said they would estimate as the cost of special delivery. It is not the cost of the degree certificate, and it is not the transport cost either (this is higher than £5).

The situation I am in is that my provider cannot decide whether my original degree transcript is acceptable (or if they have, they have not got back to me). As a result they are keeping hold of it, and I am in the dark as the admissions dept. are not contacting me at the moment. Very frustrating.

It's not irrelevant. You need to understand that you have a negative and combative attitude that is not suitable for a classroom - it's just friendly advice. I'm sure you're very passionate about teaching etc but you come across as a very defensive person who is quick to attack others. I'm sure you don't mean for them to, but all of your posts on here have a negative, mocking tone to them which is quite worrying for someone who wants to work with children. If you don't think this represents you as a person, then perhaps you might want to think about the way you communicate. It might help you out a bit.

Anyway, I digress.

I understand that this situation is highly frustrating, and yes I agree university admissions departments can be slow to get back to you and often come across as being highly disorganised to those of us on the outside. However as I'm sure you can appreciate this is a very busy time for them, and you are just one person out of many they are trying to sort out.

Are you only communicating with them via email at the moment? If so perhaps a phone call will be better at getting a quicker result.

If you're still having no joy I really do think you're going to have to suck up the cost of the train fare and just go up there yourself to get it sorted out.

Those are your options really. You can't make the university do anything, all you can control is what steps you take to resolve the issue.

I genuinely hope you get this sorted out. I really am not trying to be unkind to you, just make you realise that your tone is not perhaps the most helpful to get the responses you want.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by rachelsays)

...as I'm sure you can appreciate this is a very busy time for them, and you are just one person out of many they are trying to sort out.

...perhaps a phone call will be better at getting a quicker result.

1) Busy yes, but who isn't? I think it is unreasonable to not even reply to e-mails though. I am busy, but I still look at my e-mails and reply to all. Been well over a week now, no reply, so another one has gone out. Push them enough and they will have to do something. At least Student Finance pick the phone up and 'try' to help!

2) Called up as well, only to be told they are working through lots of paperwork. No help to me. I need to know the situation, preferably before christmas!!!

[JoannaMilano]

(Original post by Jimmy Mullen)
Questions/opinions about how I treat students is irrelevant.

You have not read the posts properly anyway, the £5 is something another member said they would estimate as the cost of special delivery. It is not the cost of the degree certificate, and it is not the transport cost either (this is higher than £5).

Um...no. Someone estimated that the post might be around £5. You then said that you could get a train ticket for cheaper. The postage is irrelevant when you can get there for under a fiver in person. Indeed, it would make no sense to post it if you can hand deliver it for cheaper.

I'm saying (and most people are agreeing) that you're a pathetic brat for not sucking it up and spending < £5 (your own figure) on a train ticket.

[pineapple86]

If this is for the PGCE do they have to see them before you do your crb check? Cos i took my originals in when i had to make a trip especially to get my crb done and took my certificates so they can photocopy them and check them etc. And it was on a day where there were train strikes so it was a blooming long journey which took all day when it shouldn't have taken that long.

[Jimmy Mullen]

(Original post by JoannaMilano)
Um...no. Someone estimated that the post might be around £5. You then said that you could get a train ticket for cheaper. The postage is irrelevant when you can get there for under a fiver in person. Indeed, it would make no sense to post it if you can hand deliver it for cheaper.

I'm saying (and most people are agreeing) that you're a pathetic brat for not sucking it up and spending < £5 (your own figure) on a train ticket.

Incorrect. In post #19, I said I could "probably" get it for less than £5. That was my estimate without checking the cost. After checking the full costs, the price would be higher than £5, not to mention finding time to do it.

Anyway, My transcript has now been accepted, so If I had followed your words, I would be out of pocket.

[Jimmy Mullen]

Good news everybody, Finally got a reply after badgering them, and my transcript has been accepted!!!!



Case Dismissed.