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work opportunities for graduate and a fun place to live?

I've heard good stuff about Edinburgh.

[x_Natalie_x]

Greece is tipped by many experts to be a great place for youth looking for jobs, and it is quite literally a riot at the moment. Why don't you try a start-up there?

[resentment.]

Australia.

[Copperknickers]

Bristol, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Sheffield... depends on what you are looking for. Edinburgh and Aberdeen are pretty small compared to the others, and not perhaps as varied, but they have pretty good employment opportunities, especially Aberdeen.

[No Man]

I wouldn't deem London as a fun place to live (unless you're a fan of crowds/stern people).
Anyway, there are plenty of graduate opportunities in Holland and I'm sure there are plenty of fun places to live there.

[Copperknickers]

(Original post by No Man)
I wouldn't deem London as a fun place to live (unless you're a fan of crowds/stern people).

The stereotype of London as unfriendly is plain wrong. The pubs and clubs are just as friendly as any others in the UK, the people are perfectly nice. Just in a city with lots of crime, talking to people in the middle of the street is obviously going to be looked on with suspicion, and its impossible to start a conversation on the tube or whatnot because people are constantly getting on and off and moving. That being said, I can't remember the last time I talked to a stranger who wasn't drunk in Glasgow or Edinburgh, but in London it happens all the time.

[EGjeff]

I'd say Bristol, Manchester and Birmingham, already thriving and a lot of businesses are moving out of London so there are and will be a lot of opporunities in the future.

[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by No Man)
I wouldn't deem London as a fun place to live (unless you're a fan of crowds/stern people).
Anyway, there are plenty of graduate opportunities in Holland and I'm sure there are plenty of fun places to live there.

London is awesome, you can do almost anything here.

[Joinedup]

Leeds was a white collar boomtown... Might have calmed down there a bit now.
Agree with london being unfriendly, try talking to someone in a pub and they look like they'd rather shank you than pass the time.

[Copperknickers]

(Original post by Joinedup)
Leeds was a white collar boomtown... Might have calmed down there a bit now.
Agree with london being unfriendly, try talking to someone in a pub and they look like they'd rather shank you than pass the time.

You've obviously never been to a pub in Glasgow (the 'friendliest city in the UK' according to various studies).

[destination unknown]

(Original post by Copperknickers)
Bristol, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Sheffield... depends on what you are looking for. Edinburgh and Aberdeen are pretty small compared to the others, and not perhaps as varied, but they have pretty good employment opportunities, especially Aberdeen.

Thanks.
How is the weather in Aberdeen? never been there but a friend told me it's too tiny for my liking. I'm used to live in big cities (london/paris/stockholm).
Most importantly for me, is the friendliness of people and how sociable they are because I will be moving on my own

(Original post by resentment.)
Australia.

Way too far and expensive.

(Original post by No Man)
Anyway, there are plenty of graduate opportunities in Holland and I'm sure there are plenty of fun places to live there.

How do you know about that? & I don't speak dutch.

[No Man]

(Original post by destination unknown)
How do you know about that? & I don't speak dutch.

I've had a look at what there is, and you don't need to speak dutch in the Netherlands since most of the people speak better English than British people themselves, and apparently they reply in English if you try to speak dutch.

[MancStudent098]

(Original post by No Man)
I've had a look at what there is, and you don't need to speak dutch in the Netherlands since most of the people speak better English than British people themselves, and apparently they reply in English if you try to speak dutch.

Maybe when you order a beer. I don't think Dutch companies are going to be much impressed by an unskilled graduate turning up who doesn't speak the local language.

[resentment.]

(Original post by destination unknown)
Way too far and expensive.

Obviously haven't done your research; the cost of living is approx. a third of that in Aus than in the UK. Plus if you had your head screwed on you'd know about grad schemes, free visas and the growing economic climates. You're guaranteed a job if you have a trade.

[tsnake23]

(Original post by resentment.)
Obviously haven't done your research; the cost of living is approx. a third of that in Aus than in the UK. Plus if you had your head screwed on you'd know about grad schemes, free visas and the growing economic climates. You're guaranteed a job if you have a trade.

Complete rubbish. A third of the cost? I've lived in Australia for a few months last year and day to day items in Australia such as groceries are as expensive, if not more expensive than the UK. Prices are rising a lot out there too.

Housing is expensive in London and parts of the South East but outside of those areas its quite cheap. The same can be said for expensive places in Australia like Sydney.

[resentment.]

(Original post by tsnake23)
Complete rubbish. A third of the cost? I've lived in Australia for a few months last year and day to day items in Australia such as groceries are as expensive, if not more expensive than the UK. Prices are rising a lot out there too.

Housing is expensive in London and parts of the South East but outside of those areas its quite cheap. The same can be said for expensive places in Australia like Sydney.

believe what you will.

[Chapeau Rouge]

(Original post by Copperknickers)
Bristol, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Sheffield... depends on what you are looking for. Edinburgh and Aberdeen are pretty small compared to the others, and not perhaps as varied, but they have pretty good employment opportunities, especially Aberdeen.

Very few in Sheffield unless you want NHS, university admin or call centres unfortunately

[Copperknickers]

(Original post by destination unknown)
Thanks.
How is the weather in Aberdeen?

It varies. Really you can't generalise: it is often 4 or 5 degrees colder than London in winter, but on the other hand it had less snow than the South of England this year and the record temperatures for Scotland are often in Aberdeenshire during the summer.

never been there but a friend told me it's too tiny for my liking. I'm used to live in big cities (london/paris/stockholm).
Most importantly for me, is the friendliness of people and how sociable they are because I will be moving on my own

Well, you can't generalise about the people in any city. Stereotypically, they are slightly reserved compared to a Glaswegian for example, but really you can find sociable and friendly people anywhere if you look. Living in a small city is not that bad, Aberdeen is very small compared to the cities you mentioned but it has less crime and is much less anonymous as a result.

How do you know about that? & I don't speak dutch.

That's not a problem, Dutch companies are crying out for graduates right now, and I have a few Dutch friends, some expats and some natives, who all agree that pretty much everyone in Holland speaks English. It's probably got the most English speakers of any country that is not native English speaking, and there are lots of opportunities for non Dutch speakers: think about it, they have plenty of English speaking native Dutch speakers, and a foreign Dutch speaker can never be as good at Dutch, so its the native English speakers that they need.

[durhamppegrad]

(Original post by x_natalie_x)
greece is tipped by many experts to be a great place for youth looking for jobs, and it is quite literally a riot at the moment. Why don't you try a start-up there?

hahaha, lmfao

[Azaro]

(Original post by MancStudent098)
Maybe when you order a beer. I don't think Dutch companies are going to be much impressed by an unskilled graduate turning up who doesn't speak the local language.

most dutch cant even speak or write dutch themselves