Why is sleeping with a drunk girl rape?

So, say a girl was fottaly tucked with alcohol, and you suggest having sex to her. She utters a grunt which sounds like a "yes" or a word to that effect.

You proceed to have sex.

Next morning she wakes up, (quite rightly) feels like a slag, and in an attempt to restore some pride in herself decides she was raped, and proceeds to tell the police that she was, indeed, raped by the man.

Is he guilty?

So, say a girl was fottaly tucked with alcohol, and you suggest having sex to her. She utters a grunt which sounds like a "yes" or a word to that effect.

You proceed to have sex.

Next morning she wakes up, (quite rightly) feels like a slag, and in an attempt to restore some pride in herself decides she was raped, and proceeds to tell the police that she was, indeed, raped by the man.

Is he guilty?

Erm, yes. It is obvious that when a girl is that drunk that you don't have sex with her. If you are unsure, always err on the side of caution.

But if she gave consent, however slurred it may have been, then she gave consent. That seems to me to be what people were saying is important.

Why can't it be rape the other way round then ? I've been hammered loads of times n found out a girl has raped me when i wake up in the morning lol

Why can't it be rape the other way round then ? I've been hammered loads of times n found out a girl has raped me when i wake up in the morning lol

Because a female can't physically rape a male. At worst, it would have been sexual assault.

Inaudible babble is not consent, lol. They need to be in a fit state to give consent, which I think is pretty obvious if they are or are not!

And everyone in this thread seems to be under the misconception that no consent = rape. It is only rape if they don't consent, and the "rapist" does not hold a reasonable belief in consent.

But isn't that totally subjective? The girl may at the time think she is in such a fit state, and only change her mind when she sobers up.

Equally the guy might not think she is an unfit state.

Or, even as a third possibility, the man and women might be too drunk to really tell what is happening and it may seem like a fabulous idea at the time.

Personally, I think if a woman gives consent then it's on her own head to deal with the consequences; it's all too easy to decide it was a bad idea in hindsight and "cry rape" so to speak, wouldn't you agree? If the law took this view it may well discourage the aimless binge drinking that usually causes these situations to develop as well.

Spoken like a true lawyer.

if she's drunk, then she can't say no, if she can't say no, then how could it be rape?


hmmmmmm........


brb going into deep philosophical thought

Because a female can't physically rape a male. At worst, it would have been sexual assault.

consent is always given, it is not assumed until revoked.

So, say a girl was fottaly tucked with alcohol, and you suggest having sex to her. She utters a grunt which sounds like a "yes" or a word to that effect.

You proceed to have sex.

Next morning she wakes up, (quite rightly) feels like a slag, and in an attempt to restore some pride in herself decides she was raped, and proceeds to tell the police that she was, indeed, raped by the man.

Is he guilty?

Well it depends how big their bucket is lol. They could get it in on a floppy hahaha