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    Egypt's Ancient Heritage Under Threat From Islam.
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    Re: Egypt's Ancient Heritage Under Threat From Islam.
    People are stealing things because they are not well protected....and ..... What does this have to do with Islam?
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    People are stealing things because they are not well protected....and ..... What does this have to do with Islam?
    Because a) where Islam goes it wishes to either destroy or keep. b) the looters are probably Aarab/Muslims. c) the report on the Egyptology website concerns the destruction of sites and the illicit digging in a Muslim country.

    In other words: it's about Islam.
    Last edited by Martyn*; 07-07-2012 at 10:02.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    Because a) where Islam goes it wishes to either destroy or keep.
    Islam isn't a person. It doesn't have desires.




    (Original post by Martyn*)
    b) the looters are probably Aarab/Muslims.
    Well...yeh...Egypt is mainly Muslim.

    (Original post by Martyn*)

    c) the report on the Egyptology website concerns the destruction of sites and the illicit digging in a Muslim country.

    In other words: it's about Islam.
    Yes.. I read your website. IT also says that the looting is taking place because there is no one protecting these sites. Nothing to do with Islam.

    In other words: You are talking crap.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Islam isn't a person. It doesn't have desires.






    Well...yeh...Egypt is mainly Muslim.



    Yes.. I read your website. IT also says that the looting is taking place because there is no one protecting these sites. Nothing to do with Islam.

    In other words: You are talking crap.
    The looting was reported a while back - it has been going on for some time. And the people who are doing the looting are the population, the population are Muslims.
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    It may have been carried out by muslims, but that doesn't mean under any circumstances that this was religously motivated and therefore has nothing to do with the religion of islam as a whole but rather the actions of individual muslims.

    It's like me trying to say that british heritage is under threat from atheism because of last years london riots. It's simply wrong to say that...unless you're a troll.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    The looting was reported a while back - it has been going on for some time. And the people who are doing the looting are the population, the population are Muslims.
    Yes but you're suggesting that Islam is the reason they are looting aren't you? When, really, all you have done is this:

    Looting in Egypt threatening ancient artefacts

    so...

    Egypt is a Muslim majority country

    so...

    Islam must promote looting


    Yeah, can't see any holes in that logic :rolleyes:

    EDIT: Where in the source does it even say the looters are Muslims?
    Last edited by Dagnabbit; 07-07-2012 at 10:32.
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    The looting was reported a while back - it has been going on for some time. And the people who are doing the looting are the population, the population are Muslims.
    Except for the 10% that are Christian.

    Even if we assume that they are all Muslim. Your title is still stupid.

    So it is stupid regardless of the reasoning you attempt to use.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Except for the 10% that are Christian.

    Even if we assume that they are all Muslim. Your title is still stupid.

    So it is stupid regardless of the reasoning you attempt to use.
    The looting started with the Muslim uprising in Egypt:

    http://www.meforum.org/2869/egypt-an...ies-revolution
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    The looting started with the Muslim uprising in Egypt:

    http://www.meforum.org/2869/egypt-an...ies-revolution
    This is a blog article (unreliable) which links to this news article

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110304/D9LOBKA00.html

    which does little to support your argument!
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    (Original post by Dagnabbit)
    This is a blog article (unreliable) which links to this news article

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110304/D9LOBKA00.html

    which does little to support your argument!
    That was the wrong link.
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    This makes me really really mad. :mad::mad:
    I hate it when historical artifacts are treated with such an absence of respect. :mad::mad:
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    The looting started with the Muslim uprising in Egypt:

    http://hillbuzz.org/muslims-looting-...is-yet-to-come
    Well obviously it began with the revolution. That was because the guards stopped patrolling the sites. That is what your original article says. You didn't need to provide a link from another idiot to prove that.

    You don't have any evidence that is solely Muslims stealing it.

    You don't have any evidence that People are stealing due to religious motivations.
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    The looting was carried out by the Muslim population of Egypt; it certainly wasn't the French.
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    I can see where Martyn is coming from, Islamic authorities do have form in repeatedly destroying the pre-Islamic cultural heritage of their countries.

    Saudi Arabia eradicates all evidence of Jewish settlements on its land, despite their existence being obvious from the Koran. The Taliban dynamited the bhudda statues and recently we've heard of militia in Mali vandalising the pre-muslim culture again link.

    Having said that, this recent spate in Egypt doesn't appear to be happening under the direction of religious authority so I would be leery of attributing it to Islam rather than to Muslims (difference is important).

    It is very unfortunate to see this happening, but lets not forget that they did band together to defend their museums during the revolution so I imagine there's many Egyptians who'd like to protect their heritage.
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    Re: Egypt's Ancient Heritage Under Threat From Islam.
    (Original post by Martyn*)
    Because a) where Islam goes it wishes to either destroy or keep. b) the looters are probably Aarab/Muslims. c) the report on the Egyptology website concerns the destruction of sites and the illicit digging in a Muslim country.

    In other words: it's about Islam.
    Ha. TSR has an extremely short collective memory. I mean its not as if we ever did those things.
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    Ha. TSR has an extremely short collective memory. I mean its not as if we ever did those things.
    Not quite sure a century ago can be described as "extremely short".
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    (Original post by Martyn*)
    The looting was carried out by the Muslim population of Egypt; it certainly wasn't the French.
    Again. Zero evidence for this. Some of the looters could have also been Christian.

    Now stop making things up.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Well obviously it began with the revolution. That was because the guards stopped patrolling the sites. That is what your original article says. You didn't need to provide a link from another idiot to prove that.

    You don't have any evidence that is solely Muslims stealing it.

    You don't have any evidence that People are stealing due to religious motivations.
    The motivation is money according to the reports. But Muslims have been destroying Egypt since they occupied that country, as did Christian Kopts in the past. But the threat is now Islam. I do not see Christians plundering the Egyptian antiquities. According to the reports Arabs had plundered them, taking the treasures from Tutankhamun.
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    The focus is on 'whether Islam is to blame' rather than the shame of looting ancient artifacts. Typical TSR :mad:
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