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1. Maths and Further Maths Module order
In an ideal world, what order should C1,C2,C3,C4,FP1,FP2,FP3,M1,M2,M3 and even M4 be taken in?

I'm just wondering what knowledge is needed to take the one after it, if that makes sense.

E.g. I know C1 and C2 should be taken before FP1, and M1 needs to be taken before M2 ect. But I'm not sure how to go about in terms of what to study at the same time ect.

I presume C1 then C2 with M1 running along-side it before January exams AS year,
FP1,M2,M3 before Summer exams AS year,
C3,C4,M3 before January exams A2 year and
FP3,M4 before Summer exams A2 year.

Is that about right? Any guidance as to what order you were taught them in or what you think they should be taught in?

Thanks
2. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
FP1 can be studied alongside C1

FP2 and 3 can be studied alongside C3 and C4

Some schools do all A maths first then FM

C1, C2, M1 in Jan
C3, C4, M2 in June
FP1, FP2, M3 in Jan
FP3, M4, and the other one in June

For example
3. It's tough because M2/3 requires C3/4 integration and FP2 requires C4 knowledge too. However, since its very basic stuff, teachers can just teach the individual skills as part of the lesson.

Therefore.
C1 C2 M1 January
M2 FP1 June
C3 FP2 Jan
C4 FP3 M3/4 June

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC One S
4. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by TenOfThem)
FP1 can be studied alongside C1

FP2 and 3 can be studied alongside C3 and C4

Some schools do all A maths first then FM

C1, C2, M1 in Jan
C3, C4, M2 in June
FP1, FP2, M3 in Jan
FP3, M4, and the other one in June

For example
(Original post by Kyyp)
It's tough because M2/3 requires C3/4 integration and FP2 requires C4 knowledge too. However, since its very basic stuff, teachers can just teach the individual skills as part of the lesson.

Therefore.
C1 C2 M1 January
M2 FP1 June
C3 FP2 Jan
C4 FP3 M3/4 June
Both make perfect sense, I just wanted to figure out what textbooks to get (just another source of methods ect in case my lecturer sucks!) so will be getting C1 C2 M1 to see me through the January exams it seems. Thanks both
I suppose the rest are just lecturer variable!

Another question, if you don't mind answering one more, is do you usually spend both the maths and further maths lessons sharing topic, e.g. before AS January exams do C1 and M1 with lecturer A and C2 with lecturer B? or is it strictly a Further maths tutor and a maths tutor, if that make sense!?

Thanks again!
Last edited by Occams Chainsaw; 08-07-2012 at 22:39.
5. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by TenOfThem)
Some schools do all A maths first then FM

C1, C2, M1 in Jan
C3, C4, M2 in June
FP1, FP2, M3 in Jan
FP3, M4, and the other one in June

For example
(Original post by Kyyp)
Therefore.
C1 C2 M1 January
M2 FP1 June
C3 FP2 Jan
C4 FP3 M3/4 June
I assume these have been given just as examples, but for Edexcel (the only board I know) you can't take FP2 in January.

(Original post by Occams Chainsaw)
Both make perfect sense, I just wanted to figure out what textbooks to get (just another source of methods ect in case my lecturer sucks!) so will be getting C1 C2 M1 to see me through the January exams it seems. Thanks both
I suppose the rest are just lecturer variable!

Another question, if you don't mind answering one more, is do you usually spend both the maths and further maths lessons sharing topic, e.g. before AS January exams do C1 and M1 with lecturer A and C2 with lecturer B? or is it strictly a Further maths tutor and a maths tutor, if that make sense!?

Thanks again!
How the modules are presented to you will be dependent upon your school/college.

Which books get recommended can be dependent upon which board you will be following and I don't think you've stated which. Although it's usually easier to work from a book, have a look at http://www.sci2.co.uk/maths.html (solution bank links, which only work with IE and Firefox browsers as far as I know) for soft copies to give you an idea, especially if you'll be following Edexcel.

The module dependencies will be stated by the board you're following in their documentation, almost certainly freely available from their website. However, I did my own dependency list (for Edexcel) and module contents, which I found easier to reference (attached). The module dependencies are shown in brackets after the module name.
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7. Last edited by grazie; 09-07-2012 at 10:33.
8. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Kyyp)
It's tough because M2/3 requires C3/4 integration and FP2 requires C4 knowledge too. However, since its very basic stuff, teachers can just teach the individual skills as part of the lesson.

Therefore.
C1 C2 M1 January
M2 FP1 June
C3 FP2 Jan
C4 FP3 M3/4 June

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC One S
M2 does not require C3/C4 Integration. At most it requires C3 trigonometry, and that has yet to appear in an exam. You'll cope fine with just C2 knowledge.
9. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
Differentiating e, cos, sin are c3 techniques that people doing m2 in my class didn't know. Depends what board you are on I suppose..
As I said earlier, most skills learned in other modules are actually easy to pick up and aren't a huge problem to learn, especially with applied modules.
10. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
It's 'etc' not 'ect'
11. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Jam')
It's 'etc' not 'ect'
It was a typo, no need to really pick up on that, it wasn't relevant to the question what so ever.
If you have nothing constructive to say about the question then perhaps you could go and say pointless things somewhere else!?
Thanks.
12. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Occams Chainsaw)
It was a typo, no need to really pick up on that, it wasn't relevant to the question what so ever.
If you have nothing constructive to say about the question then perhaps you could go and say pointless things somewhere else!?
Thanks.
You made the mistake twice. I doubt it was a typo.

Also, 'whatsoever' is one word.

You're getting an English lesson out of this thread, mate. Don't hate.
13. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Jam')
You made the mistake twice. I doubt it was a typo.

Also, 'whatsoever' is one word.

You're getting an English lesson out of this thread, mate. Don't hate.
14. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Occams Chainsaw)
The is a British forum and in British English, we tend to spell the word you used, 'patronising'.

Use standard English and I'll have no reason to respond.

By the way, I really enjoyed your use of the word 'derailing'; it was rather vivid and evoked powerful imagery.
15. Re: Maths and Further Maths Module order
(Original post by Jam')
The is a British forum and in British English, we tend to spell the word you used, 'patronising'.

Use standard English and I'll have no reason to respond.

By the way, I really enjoyed your use of the word 'derailing'; it was rather vivid and evoked powerful imagery.
It's 6am and I've been up 48 hours. Just pretend I'm an ignorant idiot that can't be taught anything and so you should just leave me be because I can't comprehend anything your saying.
Tbh I couldn't care less about my grammar on here. Unfortunately I do not take pride or even care about grammar or spelling. Unless its going to get me marks in an exam I will not even think about it. Luckily, being mathematically and physics orientated, taking them as my chosen A Level subjects, I don't actually need to use much english at all.

As for Patronizing; As with many words with a choice between "-ise" and "-ize", the "-ise" form is the most common in print in England: so "patronising" is OK. The Oxford English Dictionary, however, prefers the "-ize" form on etymological grounds (origin in Greek "-izein"), so "patronizing" is also OK; some Oxford-educated people will tell you that it's the more educated version, making your comment redundant
Last edited by Occams Chainsaw; 10-07-2012 at 08:01.