UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishI know of a Polish dentist local to me who may or may not speak english fluently.(Original post by Rob_B)
Im surprised its bigger issue as this. surely no one will pay a private dentist who doesnt speak english?
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English
Well they force Non EU dentists to sit expensive english exams when most of them from the Indian subcontinent can speak better english than eastern europeans. EU dentists do not need VT while the british graduates do.... the whole system is messed up
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English
Oh my god. This reminds me of the last dentist I saw, who was probably Russian, I can only guess from the accent. After injecting the anaesthetic in the wrong place a few times, and finally hitting the spot, he came out with "You feel that? That is my cold anaesthetic in your warm mouth." Creepy. as. ****. I'm hoping that he just hadn't mastered the English language and that's why it came out so terrifyingly, otherwise he's just scary D:
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My teeth are completely ****ed from an NHS dentist. He was polish, and he put a filling in my mouth, but he didn't use enough of the stuff in it so my tooth completely rotted and now I have to have the tooth removed because my new dentist can't save it because if the damage the other one caused. We looked into it and apparently the old dentist has completely disappeared and the same thing happened with a lot of other people. Also I'm now really scared of the dentists and I hate going and I get panic attacks because it took him 6 attempted to put the needle in my mouth properly and he got my age wrong on his forms so I wasn't given enough numbing stuff so I felt everything :/ if they could speak English it would really help.
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishAre you on about the ORE? Isn't that to ensure that non-EU graduates are to the same standard clinically as UK/EU graduate dentists.(Original post by sachinisgod)
Well they force Non EU dentists to sit expensive english exams when most of them from the Indian subcontinent can speak better english than eastern europeans. EU dentists do not need VT while the british graduates do.... the whole system is messed up
That's bizarre, what's their reasoning behind letting EU dentists getting away with not doing a VT? You only need to do VT if you want to work in the NHS, maybe most go into private dentistry? (which you don't need to do a VT for)Last edited by mirror+probe; 10-07-2012 at 12:01. -
Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishNo im on about IELTS and TOEFL. My point is,as english is an official language in many commonwealth countries, it would make more sense to examine EU dentists who dont speak a word of english, rather than people who have been studying english since childhood and done their BDS in english.(Original post by mirror+probe)
Are you on about the ORE? Isn't that to ensure that non-EU graduates are to the same standard clinically as UK/EU graduate dentists.
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishIt's still useful for the dentist to speak English, so that they understand "GIMME MORE ANAESTHETIC" in a mumbled voice. I love my dentist because of that! She just kept giving me crap loads of it when I asked :P(Original post by Drewski)
Does it matter? Most patients can't speak English during the procedures anyway
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishYou don't talk directly to a practitioner when booking, you talk to their receptionist.(Original post by KasanDude)
Surely this is largely irrelevant. If you can't understand the dentist, you simply won't schedule an appointment with him. I'm pretty sure that you can always find a dentist that speaks english in England... -
Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English
But considering this is Britain, you would expect the public service to speak English. If they can't then how are the patients here going to understand what they are saying? So yes, they can force them to speak English, and they should.
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English
This is horrible, but I can assure you the same problem happens elsewhere. Someone from the Czech Republic told me about her Ukrainian doctor who couldn't speak Czech at all. By all means, it's not a problem for me if a doctor comes from abroad and the language of his or her target country isn't their native tongue, but they should definitely learn the language properly. Why can't the same rules apply to the private sector as well? The law concerning this should be modified.
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishWell, yes. But then you walk in for a check-up, and if the dentist can't talk to you, you just won't come back... you'll go to a different dentist.(Original post by AdvanceAndVanquish)
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Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak English(Original post by stinkerbelll)
Oh my god. This reminds me of the last dentist I saw, who was probably Russian, I can only guess from the accent. After injecting the anaesthetic in the wrong place a few times, and finally hitting the spot, he came out with "You feel that? That is my cold anaesthetic in your warm mouth." Creepy. as. ****. I'm hoping that he just hadn't mastered the English language and that's why it came out so terrifyingly, otherwise he's just scary D:
Edit: To stay on topic, I don't have a problem with it if it's in the private sector. If not speaking English is inimical to their business, I'm sure they will train their doctors accordingly.Last edited by whyumadtho; 11-07-2012 at 21:15. -
Re: UK government can't force foreign dentists to speak EnglishThat's kind of the point. They should, but legally they can't because of the EU.(Original post by niareb)
But considering this is Britain, you would expect the public service to speak English. If they can't then how are the patients here going to understand what they are saying? So yes, they can force them to speak English, and they should. -
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I suspect this is a load of rot - there is an obligation to recognise qualifications from across the EU, but you can still impose reasonable levels of local testing. I can't just swan into France and start practising as an accountant, I don't think it's going to be easier for a dentist going the other way.