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  1. zoxe's Avatar
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    bearings question
    An aeroplane flies from airport A to airport B 80 km away on a bearing of 070∘. From B the aeroplane flies to airport C, 60 km from B. Airport C is 90 km from A. Find the two possible directions for the course set by the aeroplane on the second stage of its journey.
    I got theta to be 78.6 but I can't work out the bearings, for some reason I keep getting the wrong answer when trying to figure it out as shown below:

    I do 360 - (70 + 2(78.6)) and get 132.8 which is incorrect and this is for only one of the bearings, I have no idea how to work out the other, I just keep seeing it as from due north, but the answer is 323.6...

    thanks

  2. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    I do not see how theta is 78.6

    The Cosine Rule gives a different answer

    the 70 marked in your diagram is not correct ... why do you think that C1 is North of B
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    I do not see how theta is 78.6

    The Cosine Rule gives a different answer

    the 70 marked in your diagram is not correct ... why do you think that C1 is North of B
    I done: costheta = (6^2+8^2-9^2)/(2*6*8) then found theta to be 78.6

    Does it really matter where C1 is, as it's just asking for the two possible directions
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    Sorry, yes the 78.6 is right (I used 70 instead of 60 because of your diagram )
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    (Original post by zoxe)
    Does it really matter where C1 is, as it's just asking for the two possible directions
    The 2 possible positions of C are defined by the angle theta
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    (Original post by zoxe)
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    Whilst I agree with 78.6, I can't see why you're doing "360 - (70 + 2(78.6))", and I don't agree with the book; I make it 328.6 for one.
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by ghostwalker)
    Whilst I agree with 78.6, I can't see why you're doing "360 - (70 + 2(78.6))", and I don't agree with the book; I make it 328.6 for one.
    How did you get 328.6? I'm doing 360-(70+2(78.6)) because all the angles add up to 360 around the point B, two of those angles are theta, i.e 78.6 and the other is 70. The book has done 180 + 70 - theta and 180 + 70 - theta and I can see what theyve done and how they have done it but I don't really know why the way i'm doing it does not work.
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by ghostwalker)
    Whilst I agree with 78.6, I can't see why you're doing "360 - (70 + 2(78.6))", and I don't agree with the book; I make it 328.6 for one.
    also, you are right, the book is wrong on one of them.
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    i get
    328.6 and 171.4
    Last edited by TenOfThem; 09-07-2012 at 22:06.
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    i get
    298.6 and 171.4
    the book has answers 171.4 and 328.6
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    (Original post by zoxe)
    the book has answers 171.4 and 328.6
    yes, sorry a mis read

    That is what I get
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    Re: bearings question
    If AB is a straight line then theta is 110 isn't it? Surely


    Theta being the angle marked \theta in the diagram.
    Last edited by SubAtomic; 09-07-2012 at 22:12.
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    (Original post by SubAtomic)
    If AB is a straight line then theta is 110 isn't it? Surely
    It would be if C1 were North of B but it isn't
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    It would be if C1 were North of B but it isn't
    I don't understand your working, could you explain?

    Also the diagram is from the solutions page, I've just added the red parts, i.e my working.
    Last edited by zoxe; 09-07-2012 at 22:19.
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    It would be if C1 were North of B but it isn't
    Based on that diagram in the OP theta represents 110? If the plane is traveling at a bearing 070?

    Or is it the case in text books that theta can represent different values even without being written \theta_2
    Last edited by SubAtomic; 09-07-2012 at 22:18.
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    It would be if C1 were North of B but it isn't
    Okay with your diagram it's so simple, how did you know C1 and C2 were drawn that way?
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    Re: bearings question
    Might help (I used "t" for theta).
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    Re: bearings question
    (Original post by ghostwalker)
    Might help (I used "t" for theta).
    same as tenofthem, how did you know the position of C1 and C2?
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    Re: bearings question
    So the diagram in the OPs text book is completely wrong?
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