[Pingispin]

Hi everyone,

I am waiting for my unconditional offer now. I have met the condition of my offer (a 2:1 degree). However, the only thing that I am worried about is that my aggregate final mark was 59 but because most of my modules' result were above 60% and I did well for the final project so I was still awarded a 2:1 degree. I am wondering if this will prevent me from obtaining a unconditional offer? Thanks!

[RinniieX]

Ask the uni?

[Pkysam]

It's not quite clear what you're applying for/talking about.. but no-one EVER asks for a transcript (which is disappointing, I'm really proud of mine!) so no-one will EVER know your mark, only your classification which is printed on your certificate. Stop worrying :P

[Pingispin]

(Original post by Pkysam)
It's not quite clear what you're applying for/talking about.. but no-one EVER asks for a transcript (which is disappointing, I'm really proud of mine!) so no-one will EVER know your mark, only your classification which is printed on your certificate. Stop worrying :P

The certificate has not yet been produced, only the transcript is available at this moment...

[sliceofcake]

How is it an unconditional offer if it's dependant on your result?

[Pingispin]

(Original post by sliceofcake)
How is it an unconditional offer if it's dependant on your result?

This is the condition on my CONDITIONAL offer (Sorry about the confusion):
This offer is subject to you achieving a first or upper second class honours in your current undergraduate degree programme. Please send a final transcript to us as soon as one becomes available. The transcript, or an official letter of award from your university, should confirm that you have satisfactorily completed all of the requirements for the award of the degree.

[sliceofcake]

(Original post by Pingispin)
This is the condition:
This offer is subject to you achieving a first or upper second class honours in your current undergraduate degree programme. Please send a final transcript to us as soon as one becomes available. The transcript, or an official letter of award from your university, should confirm that you have satisfactorily completed all of the requirements for the award of the degree.

So it's not unconditional. It's a conditional offer.
I know I might seem pedantic it's just you calling it an unconditional offer confused me

[TenOfThem]

(Original post by sliceofcake)
So it's not unconditional. It's a conditional offer.
I know I might seem pedantic it's just you calling it an unconditional offer confused me

The OP is waiting for his conditional to turn to an unconditional

[sliceofcake]

(Original post by TenOfThem)
The OP is waiting for his conditional to turn to an unconditional

Ohh okay! Thank you for clearing that up

[hobnob]

(Original post by Pingispin)
Hi everyone,

I am waiting for my unconditional offer now. I have met the condition of my offer (a 2:1 degree). However, the only thing that I am worried about is that my aggregate final mark was 59 but because most of my modules' result were above 60% and I did well for the final project so I was still awarded a 2:1 degree. I am wondering if this will prevent me from obtaining a unconditional offer? Thanks!

Unless your offer actually specified a particular average (as some do), you've met your offer conditions. If you're worried that the university might just look at the overall average, you could try asking your departmental secretary to email them on your behalf to confirm that you will be awarded a 2.1, even though your average was below 60.

[Pingispin]

Thank you all for your advice.

No specific aggregate mark was mentioned on my offer--just a 2:1. But is there any possibility that they reject me just because my aggregate mark was below 60%?

[Jam']

This makes sense:

Unconditional - on the condition you get a 2:1. Aargh. My brain.

[M1011]

(Original post by Pingispin)
This is the condition:
This offer is subject to you achieving a first or upper second class honours in your current undergraduate degree programme. Please send a final transcript to us as soon as one becomes available. The transcript, or an official letter of award from your university, should confirm that you have satisfactorily completed all of the requirements for the award of the degree.

Just to make this clear, this is a conditional offer. If in doubt, see the above condition... Meeting the conditions of a conditional offer doesn't suddenly make it an unconditional offer, as the offer still came with... that's right you guessed it... conditions!

I do wonder about the quality of students today...

[Pingispin]

(Original post by M1011)
Just to make this clear, this is a conditional offer. If in doubt, see the above condition... Meeting the conditions of a conditional offer doesn't suddenly make it an unconditional offer, as the offer still came with... that's right you guessed it... conditions!

I do wonder about the quality of students today...

The offer I have is a conditional offer and the condition is achieving a 2:1 degree. In order to get an unconditional offer, I need to send my transcript to the OP, then he/she will tick off the condition. No confusion here...

I am just wondering that if they will reject me when they see my aggregate mark..

[M1011]

(Original post by Pingispin)
The offer I have is a conditional offer and the condition is achieving a 2:1 degree. In order to get an unconditional offer, I need to send my transcript to the OP, then he/she will tick off the condition. No confusion here...

I am just wondering that if they will reject me when they see my aggregate mark..

When they tick off that condition it doesn't suddenly transform in to a unconditional offer. It is a conditional offer where you have met the conditions. It's really not rocket science.

I don't know about the mark to be perfectly honest. I guess it might depend on whether they are oversubscribed or not. I thought (perhaps wrongly) that postgrad courses often looked for high 2.1s, so a 59 might push it. Then again, if you're awarded a 2.1 then I guess that was the condition.

[mc1000]

I got two unconditional offers, with a high 2.2, from two prestigious Russell Groups - in courses which specified entry standards of a 2.1 and made no mention of any other possibility. I also know other people who got 2.2s and are doing masters at Russell Groups. Depends on the course I'd imagine, but I think even some of the best universities are fairly lenient on 'near misses'.

[Nichrome]

(Original post by M1011)
When they tick off that condition it doesn't suddenly transform in to a unconditional offer. It is a conditional offer where you have met the conditions. It's really not rocket science.
I don't know about the mark to be perfectly honest. I guess it might depend on whether they are oversubscribed or not. I thought (perhaps wrongly) that postgrad courses often looked for high 2.1s, so a 59 might push it. Then again, if you're awarded a 2.1 then I guess that was the condition.

Confusingly unis like to call these unconditionals. Once I'd met the conditions for my offer and sent proof, my uni sent another offer saying now the offer was unconditional.

[pipsi]

(Original post by Pkysam)
It's not quite clear what you're applying for/talking about.. but no-one EVER asks for a transcript (which is disappointing, I'm really proud of mine!) so no-one will EVER know your mark, only your classification which is printed on your certificate. Stop worrying :P

Everytime I've had to show proof of my undergraduate degree and now my postgrad degree I've been asked to provide transcripts, no university I have dealt with so far will accept only a certificate. In fact the paperwork I got with my transcript and certificate actually state that the certificate is not proof of the degree, only my transcript is.

With regards to the original question. If the offer states II.1 then that's what the offer is, if the offer had stated that you needed to get at least 60% than that would be a different offer. So congratulations, you have met your offer!!! In any case I think even if they had given you an offer of 60%, getting 50% is very close and some discretion would probably be used.

[Pkysam]

(Original post by pipsi)
Everytime I've had to show proof of my undergraduate degree and now my postgrad degree I've been asked to provide transcripts, no university I have dealt with so far will accept only a certificate. In fact the paperwork I got with my transcript and certificate actually state that the certificate is not proof of the degree, only my transcript is.

Really? And it's a UK degree? I've never been asked for transcript, either for academic reasons or job reasons, only the certificate is ever checked. Were they actually interested in your score in specific modules? May I ask which university the certificate is from, only because I've never known a degree certificate that said it wasn't proof of the degree?

[Pingispin]

(Original post by pipsi)
With regards to the original question. If the offer states II.1 then that's what the offer is, if the offer had stated that you needed to get at least 60% than that would be a different offer. So congratulations, you have met your offer!!! In any case I think even if they had given you an offer of 60%, getting 50% is very close and some discretion would probably be used.

Thank you! I am still waiting for a reply. Hopefully I will get accepted.