[mirin?]

How bad do you think it is?

[doggyfizzel]

Not bad at all. I don't feel held back by by colour at all. I think the number of non white people we see who have made it in various areas are proof it can be done. Racism in the world of work has been eradicated on all but a minority personal level.

[whyumadtho]

Its prominence varies by location and demographic.

[Alesha1991]

I wouldn't say it's that bad. There's a minority of idiots who are very vocal with their racist views, but for most people race isn't a major issue. Can't say I've had much racism directed at me personally.

[mirin?]

(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Not bad at all. I don't feel held back by by colour at all. I think the number of non white people we see who have made it in various areas are proof it can be done. Racism in the world of work has been eradicated on all but a minority personal level.

Are you sure? I know for a fact that the statistics suggest otherwise. So you're saying someone with a name like "Muhammad Assad" on their CV would not be discriminated against when applying for jobs?

[rmpr97]

(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Not bad at all. I don't feel held back by by colour at all. I think the number of non white people we see who have made it in various areas are proof it can be done. Racism in the world of work has been eradicated on all but a minority personal level.

(Original post by whyumadtho)
Its prominence varies by location and demographic.

I agree with both of your posts, especially in London where there is high diversity, and where the top jobs are for the most parts, racism is hard to be found on an institutional level. Personally there may be a few gits, but chances are they probably won't be at the 'top' because they're just dumb for that.

On the location thing yeah, apparently on DoFE in East Grinstead some guys in a car shouted 'look its some black *******'. But in the countryside people haven't necessarily exposed/parenting, I'd imagine its more of a nurture thing.

[Annoying-Mouse]

Racism in the UK I would say is pretty small. Most ethnic minorities tend to stick together and live in areas with other ethnic minorities like parts of London or Birmingham or Manchester. I can imagine those who come from areas which are 99% white can experience racism. Although, this applies to whites as well in areas with high-ethnic minority, in my experience.

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by mirin?)
Are you sure? I know for a fact that the statistics suggest otherwise. So you're saying someone with a name like "Muhammad Assad" on their CV would not be discriminated against when applying for jobs?

How can you tell whether they'd be discriminated against? Are you giving both applicants exact same CV and job experience? If so, then I don't see it as racism or a problem. It's just cultural familiarity, this dude's name is John subconsciously John is a British name hence likely to chose him. If not, then it's unscientific study because there are too many external factors that aren't being controlled for.

[mirin?]

(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
How can you tell whether they'd be discriminated against? Are you giving both applicants exact same CV and job experience? If so, then I don't see it as racism or a problem. It's just cultural familiarity, this dude's name is John subconsciously John is a British name hence likely to chose him. If not, then it's unscientific study because there are too many external factors that aren't being controlled for.

Yeah, i forgot to add, lets assume they have exactly the same credentials. John and Muhammad.

[NWA]

It's quite rare. You will obviously come across hundreds of keyboard warriors and part time racists on youtube, TSR and the like. However living in a pretty much all white area all my life in northern England and being mixed race i think it's fine (touch wood).

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by mirin?)
Yeah, i forgot to add, lets assume they have exactly the same credentials. John and Muhammad.

For an Englishmen in Newcastle John probably. But, I don't see the problem. If you can only call one person for an interview then it makes sense to call John if you're a Englishmen in Newscastle and you'll probably pick John subconsciously. Do this in Japan or Sweden or India or whatever then they'll pick the name that is close to their cultural background.

[B-Man.]

(Original post by doggyfizzel)
Not bad at all. I don't feel held back by by colour at all. I think the number of non white people we see who have made it in various areas are proof it can be done. Racism in the world of work has been eradicated on all but a minority personal level.

Bull****. There is a huge race bias in Britain's workplaces. Take a read of the article below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009...ent-undercover

[drakecage]

The UK is among the most if not outrightly the most civilized society in the world. Of course racism is here but not like the 'in your face kind of attitude' common in some Eastern countries and Russia.
But again I'm in academia and my life revolves around researchers - the more intelligent a person, the more tolerant he/she is.

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by B-Man.)
Bull****. There is a huge race bias in Britain's workplaces. Take a read of the article below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009...ent-undercover

Unscientific/10. How are they missing out on real talent anyway if they had the similar same qualifications and experience? Da ***? Are they implying people with British names are less qualified? Also, how do they know it's conscious discrimination? I mean, the person has to pick between two people, what's the problem with him picking the one that he feels he likes more (which happens to be British-sounding names considering his British)?

[Rtcw]

Not as bad as America.

[B-Man.]

(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
Unscientific/10. How are they missing out on real talent anyway if they had the similar same qualifications and experience? Da ***? Are they implying people with British names are less qualified? Also, how do they know it's conscious discrimination? I mean, the person has to pick between two people, what's the problem with him picking the one that he feels he likes more (which happens to be British-sounding names considering his British)?

Because it unfairly disadvantages those with names associated with other ethnic groups.

[theonefrombrum]

I can imagine that if people of certain races wandered into certain areas in the UK, then they would most likely experience some level of racism. But, without having conducted proper research into it, i would say that racism really isn't that bad in the UK.

[Annoying-Mouse]

(Original post by B-Man.)
Because it unfairly disadvantages those with names associated with other ethnic groups.

So? That's like saying because you like bubbly people, you're unfairly disadvantaging non-bubbly people when it comes to interviews. Who gives a ****? People have preferences. In the same way a person can pretend to be bubbly, a minority can change their name to more British ones if they really want it. If you're trying to work for Mr Patel's (fresh of the boat) corner shop guess who gets the job? Punjab Patel or John Adams?

[cid]

I don't think its a major issue, but then i am white, the racial majority of this country and socialize with a with rather open minded people so i rarely see it.

[The_Male_Melons]

(Original post by mirin?)
How bad do you think it is?

I think most people on here are in denial. We see racism, on telly, newspapers internet (esp forums like this one) and in our streets. Racism in the UK is pretty high. The EDL mentaility is not isolated to one group of idiots, their mentality is shared by millions in the UK- scary, scary, scary.