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    Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    I came to Edinburgh in 2004 for my undergraduate and have been living and working here since. I did a top up course, funded by myself for a year and now I am thinking studying an MSc next year. I'm not sure if I am still classed as an 'international' or outside the UK student (although I assume I will be).

    Also, I don't know where to begin with applying to get a loan for my fees and a grant. I was pretty lucky for my undergrad, I had free fees and my parents paid for everything else. Where do you actually apply for grants or maintenance loans, etc? Yeah, completely clueless as to what's available! Help!!!!
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by Sprockette)
    I came to Edinburgh in 2004 for my undergraduate and have been living and working here since. I did a top up course, funded by myself for a year and now I am thinking studying an MSc next year. I'm not sure if I am still classed as an 'international' or outside the UK student (although I assume I will be).

    Also, I don't know where to begin with applying to get a loan for my fees and a grant. I was pretty lucky for my undergrad, I had free fees and my parents paid for everything else. Where do you actually apply for grants or maintenance loans, etc? Yeah, completely clueless as to what's available! Help!!!!
    I'm fairly sure once you've lived in the UK for over 3 years you count as a home student for fee purposes. I think students from the EU pay home student tuition fees anyway.
    Last edited by Nichrome; 11-07-2012 at 07:00.
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by Sprockette)
    I came to Edinburgh in 2004 for my undergraduate and have been living and working here since. I did a top up course, funded by myself for a year and now I am thinking studying an MSc next year. I'm not sure if I am still classed as an 'international' or outside the UK student (although I assume I will be).
    If you've lived and in the UK for three years or more, you'll be classified as a home student because the key criterion is residence, not nationality.
    Also, I don't know where to begin with applying to get a loan for my fees and a grant. I was pretty lucky for my undergrad, I had free fees and my parents paid for everything else. Where do you actually apply for grants or maintenance loans, etc? Yeah, completely clueless as to what's available! Help!!!!
    The wiki article on postgraduate funding has a pretty good outline. It might not answer every question that you may have, but it should help to get you started.
    Last edited by hobnob; 11-07-2012 at 08:06.
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    Thanks guys, that's brilliant! Fingers crossed. I really feel like I need to study again - though I'll probably regret that a few months in, the course I'm looking at seems pretty tough. Need to get my head down before I start!
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by Sprockette)
    I came to Edinburgh in 2004 for my undergraduate and have been living and working here since....!
    If you are a national of the Republic of Ireland (EU) , hold Irish passport and lived anywhere in the EEA for three years prior, you are considered "home" student even if you have never lived in the UK.
    Last edited by janjanmmm; 11-07-2012 at 17:35.
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by janjanmmm)
    If you are a national of the Republic of Ireland (EU) , hold Irish passport and lived anywhere in the EEA for three years prior, you are considered "home" student even if you have never lived in the UK.
    I thought that for fees I was OK but I was looking up what grants and stuff I could get - just a quick link on the uni website for the course - and it deleted a few that I would be entitled to when I put down Rep of Ireland. So I just wasn't sure.
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by janjanmmm)
    If you are a national of the Republic of Ireland (EU) , hold Irish passport and lived anywhere in the EEA for three years prior, you are considered "home" student even if you have never lived in the UK.
    This is incorrect. You are only considered a 'home' student if you have lived in the UK for three years. If you are an EU national and have lived anywhere in the EEA for the past three years, then you are considered an EU student. Both categories are charged the same rate of fees, but there is a difference when it comes to applying for funding, such as Research Councils as EU students aren't eligible for full awards, only fees. I believe it is the same even for UK students: if you were Scottish and had lived in Ireland for the past five years (to reverse the OP's example) then I believe you would actually be considered an EU student for fee purposes! As hobnob said, it's done on residency grounds rather than nationality.
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    (Original post by gutenberg)
    This is incorrect.... Both categories are charged the same rate of fees, but there is a difference when it comes to applying for funding
    I was speaking about the fees.

    When it comes to funding there are a lot of things that come into play, even your age. Sources of funding should be checked individually and there is no "blanket" requirement for all of them.
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    (Original post by janjanmmm)
    I was speaking about the fees.

    When it comes to funding there are a lot of things that come into play, even your age. Sources of funding should be checked individually and there is no "blanket" requirement for all of them.
    Fair enough. Although technically 'home' and 'EU' are two separate fee statuses, even though the fees themselves are the same: my fees are always listed as 'EU student', rather than 'home' For most state funding (such as research councils) and many universities' schemes (though not all, I agree) there is different treatment of 'EU' and 'Home' students, hence the need to be clear on the difference.
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    Yeah, this is what I was worrying about, the funding. If I put down UK as 'country', it comes up with 12 different options of funding i could apply for but when I put Rep of Ireland it goes down to 3... I'll probably get onto the uni or.. uh, someone if I am actually going to apply.
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    Re: Rep of Ireland national but resident in Scotland 8 years - international student?
    (Original post by Sprockette)
    Yeah, this is what I was worrying about, the funding. If I put down UK as 'country', it comes up with 12 different options of funding i could apply for but when I put Rep of Ireland it goes down to 3... I'll probably get onto the uni or.. uh, someone if I am actually going to apply.
    If you've been living in the UK for at least the past three years, then you'll be fine for funding as a 'Home' student- and from reading your first post, you well exceed this demand. Maybe contact the university to double check, and to ask how you go about proving your residency - I don't know if they ask for utility bills, university correspondence etc?
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