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  1. yennibubs's Avatar
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Too bad, i've already dumped him. And you know whats funny mate? He was perfectly normal until he joined your religion. The guy has turned into an extremist! He hasn't even read the whole quran yet claims its the perfect truth. Seriously? Can Islam be the perfect truth after 3 weeks of reading bits and bobs?
    Good on you, OP I didn't think it would have been worth it. It's not right for anyone to try to force a religion on you and blame you for being raped. That's just nonsense!! I hope he regrets everything he said. It's funny how the muslims in this thread are just making it so much worse for you btw.

    and thank you Ayshizzle for those quotes. Maybe the others who are confused are also don't understand the meaning of 'consummated'...
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Too bad, i've already dumped him. And you know whats funny mate? He was perfectly normal until he joined your religion. The guy has turned into an extremist! He hasn't even read the whole quran yet claims its the perfect truth. Seriously? Can Islam be the perfect truth after 3 weeks of reading bits and bobs?
    Good on ye.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Too bad, i've already dumped him. And you know whats funny mate? He was perfectly normal until he joined your religion. The guy has turned into an extremist! He hasn't even read the whole quran yet claims its the perfect truth. Seriously? Can Islam be the perfect truth after 3 weeks of reading bits and bobs?
    To be fair, i'm not sure that you can be 'perfectly normal' and just turn into such a complete **** overnight :\
    It definitely sounds like you did the right thing though, hope you're ok

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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    Regarding Aisha's age (seeing as its mentioned here), It is impossible for us to know how old she was. It wasn't mentioned in the Quran and the various sources are just guesses. Just as there are sources saying she was 9, there are sources saying she was older, such as the ones below. Theres no point in hating on peoples religions over something no-one actually knows. Just saying.

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    We find evidence in both Hadith books and history books that indicates Aisha must have been older than nine when she got married:

    According to a hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE. However, because no one below the age of fifteen was allowed to accompany raiding parties, Aisha should have been at least fifteen in 624 CE and thus at least thirteen when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.

    Ibn Hisham’s version of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least fifteen in 622 CE.

    Tabari reports that Abu Bakr wished to spare Aisha the discomforts of a journey to Ethiopia soon after 615 CE, and tried to bring forward her marriage to Mut`am’s son. Mut`am refused because Abu Bakr had converted to Islam, but if Aisha was already of marriageable age in 615 CE, she must have been older than nine in 622 CE.

    Tabari also reports that Abu Bakr’s four children were all born during the Jahiliyyah (Pre-Islam Period), which has ended in 610 CE, making Aisha at least twelve in 622 CE.

    According to Ibn Hajar, Fatima was five years older than Aisha. Fatima is reported to have been born when Muhammad was thirty-five years old, meaning Aisha was born when he was forty years old, and thus twelve when Muhammad married at fifty-two.

    According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah (Migration to Medina). However, according to another narrative in Bukhari (Kitaab al-Tafseer) Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an , was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th Surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years, then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.

    According to almost all the historians, Asma the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha. It is reported in Taqreeb al-Tehzeeb as well as in Ibn Kathir's Al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah that Asma died in the 73rd year after migration of Muhammad when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73rd year after Migration to Medina, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of migration. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, if Aisha got married in year 1 AH or 2 AH (after Migration to Medina), she must have been between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

    According to many Ahadith in Bukhari, it is believed Aisha participated in the both of Badr and Uhud battles. Furthermore, in Bukhari's Kitabu’l-Maghazi, Ibn `Umar states: "The Prophet did not permit me to participate in Uhud battle, as at that time, I was 14 years old. But on the day of Khandaq battle, when I was 15 years old, the Prophet permitted my participation". So, since it was not allowed for Muslims younger than 15 years old to participate in Uhud battle, Aisha, who participated in Uhud, must have been at least 15 years old in those battles; thus her age was at least 13 to 14 at the time of her marriage.

    According to ibn Sa’d's Tabaqat and Ansab al-Ashraf books, opinions are in disagreement concerning her marriage with Muhammad. The marriage seems to have taken place either two of five years after the Migration (Usd al-Ghaba, 5:501).
  5. Study's Avatar
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Too bad, i've already dumped him. And you know whats funny mate? He was perfectly normal until he joined your religion. The guy has turned into an extremist! He hasn't even read the whole quran yet claims its the perfect truth. Seriously? Can Islam be the perfect truth after 3 weeks of reading bits and bobs?
    Never known a girl to say mate, actually I am started to think your story is very fake, was a bit fishy from the start anyway.

    Thread to make Muslims look bad?
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    (Original post by Study)
    Never known a girl to say mate, actually I am started to think your story is very fake, was a bit fishy from the start anyway.

    Thread to make Muslims look bad?
    I'm a girl and I say mate. lol it's not uncommon...

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  7. Study's Avatar
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by yennibubs)
    I'm a girl and I say mate. lol it's not uncommon...

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-I9300
    Never heard it even once where I live L
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    i always end up screaming at him because he said that mohamed was right to sleep with his child bride, that disturbed me as well
    On this basis alone you should be out but if you really love him give him an ultimatum.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
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    I think i may do this. He keeps telling me that i'm an atheist because of satan, even though i dont believe in satan.
    A separation would mean time off for both of you. Evaluating your feelings for one another in the other's absence might make him realize that tolerance and acceptance is key. Remind him that, as long as he isn't ramming the religion down your throat, you don't mind him being into Islam, so long as he respects your atheism.

    Does that sound possible? Obviously if things still don't work out and he doesn't get the message, drop him. Even if you were a serious couple, different religious beliefs that are too potent can drive you apart, so why put any future childers through that?

    Good luck. Religion can be hard.
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    (Original post by Study)
    Never known a girl to say mate, actually I am started to think your story is very fake, was a bit fishy from the start anyway.

    Thread to make Muslims look bad?
    Have you considered a career in the police force? Your skills as a detective are clearly being wasted.

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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    Make a break with him for a couple of weeks. If he still wants you to convert, dump.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    People are more worried about who slept with who 1400 years ago than to what's hapenning today. We are getting closer to LOndon olympics and if something big cracks off the whole of Europe will be facing simillar scenario as Bosnian/Herzegovina while Islamists are coming into power in Middle East in North Africa.

    Joseph aged 90 married Mary when she was between 11-14. JUdaism had simillar traditions too. There's no point discussing something that hasn't been 100% proven backed by solid evidence.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Too bad, i've already dumped him. And you know whats funny mate? He was perfectly normal until he joined your religion. The guy has turned into an extremist! He hasn't even read the whole quran yet claims its the perfect truth. Seriously? Can Islam be the perfect truth after 3 weeks of reading bits and bobs?
    Islam can be perfect to someone within less than 3 milliseconds, 3 weeks is still long.

    Your ex-partner has chosen his path so let him get on with his new journey while i am sure you will not have any problems moving onto a new partner which most white girls are use to anyway (no offence intended).
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by noteraz)
    Islam can be perfect to someone within less than 3 milliseconds, 3 weeks is still long.

    Your ex-partner has chosen his path so let him get on with his new journey while i am sure you will not have any problems moving onto a new partner which most white girls are use to anyway (no offence intended).
    **** off. Forever.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    "I don't like Islam [...] I don't know much about it."

    Take several seats.

    Please do some research and then make a justified conclusion. Don't take your boyfriend's ostensibly oppressive behaviour to be a true representation of Islam.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by noteraz)
    Islam can be perfect to someone within less than 3 milliseconds, 3 weeks is still long.

    Your ex-partner has chosen his path so let him get on with his new journey while i am sure you will not have any problems moving onto a new partner which most white girls are use to anyway (no offence intended).
    Despite the qualification at the end, I sense that this might still be construed as offensive...Complete d********.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by noteraz)
    Islam can be perfect to someone within less than 3 milliseconds, 3 weeks is still long.

    Your ex-partner has chosen his path so let him get on with his new journey while i am sure you will not have any problems moving onto a new partner which most white girls are use to anyway (no offence intended).

    Erm what?
    Last edited by Idle; 14-07-2012 at 15:30.
  18. Anonymous's Avatar
    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by noteraz)
    Islam can be perfect to someone within less than 3 milliseconds, 3 weeks is still long.

    Your ex-partner has chosen his path so let him get on with his new journey while i am sure you will not have any problems moving onto a new partner which most white girls are use to anyway (no offence intended).
    Im mixed race for your information.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    (Original post by Ray of Light)
    "I don't like Islam [...] I don't know much about it."

    Take several seats.

    Please do some research and then make a justified conclusion. Don't take your boyfriend's ostensibly oppressive behaviour to be a true representation of Islam.

    I have been looking into Islam. I haven't found anything positive.
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    Re: My boyfriend is trying to convert me to Islam. HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP
    Prophet Muhammad's wife was older than him, muslims are allowed to keep dogs, just not in the house, instead keep them in a kennel outside and in islam it is believed that men and women should be treated the same. So basically you are wrong with all your facts.
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