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  1. hyakushiki1234's Avatar
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    Does smoking not help people relax as well? I've never smoked so I can't verify that but I have family members who say it helps them to relax when they're stressed.
  2. Hopple's Avatar
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    But the amount of smoke you will breath in from walking past someone smoking is so negligible that it isn't dangerous.
    One person, yes. Over time it accumulates though. 'Firsthand' smoking one cigarette isn't going to kill you, but they do cause cancer.
  3. DaveSmith99's Avatar
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by Hopple)
    One person, yes. Over time it accumulates though. 'Firsthand' smoking one cigarette isn't going to kill you, but they do cause cancer.
    Does it though? I am not aware of any scientific evidence that suggests that walking past smokers accumulates and causes harm.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by niareb)
    Someone told me the other day 'people should be made to quit smoking'.
    And I think I might agree because quite frankly they are no good to anyone-(As far as I know)
    I can only think of disadvantages to cigarettes and not one single benefit.
    -They kill the people who smoke them
    -They are addictive and people become dependant on them
    -They kill people who don't smoke (which is unfair)
    -This are dangerous to small children and toddlers (which is once again, not fair)
    -Poorer people who are addicted are wasting a lot of their money on them and it's not their fault
    -It makes the users have yellow teeth, cough a lot and become on the whole a lot less attractive
    -it stinks to the high heavens!

    I would like to be able to walk around the high streets without deadly cigarette smoke being blown into my face by the person in front of me.

    As a non-smoker I am unaware of any potential benefits to smoking things that will kill you and everything around you. If there are any, I will be very shocked.

    Any opinions?
    No. I don't smoke but **** that. We've got far too much of grown adults being told how to live their lives in this country and we don't need it. If someone wants to do something that involves nobody else then who the hell are we to tell them they can't? I'm all for avoiding passive smoking but that can easily be avoided. We have laws for that.
    Also when you walk around the city streets, do you stress about how much car exhaust fumes you're breathing?
    Last edited by SnoochToTheBooch; 12-07-2012 at 00:01.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by Elwyn)
    Yes I realise that, but they should tax cigarettes more and fuel less. If it means people can't afford to smoke anymore that's only a good thing.
    Things like this is the long term economic health problem we need to get sorted. Not all these 'sin products': http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17694931.../#.T_4Hv3BJVfQ
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    I'm not much of a smoker, but I saw this title and had a smoke. Just because I mother ****ing can.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by niareb)
    Someone told me the other day 'people should be made to quit smoking'.
    And I think I might agree because quite frankly they are no good to anyone-(As far as I know)
    I can only think of disadvantages to cigarettes and not one single benefit.
    -They kill the people who smoke them
    -They are addictive and people become dependant on them
    -They kill people who don't smoke (which is unfair)
    -This are dangerous to small children and toddlers (which is once again, not fair)
    -Poorer people who are addicted are wasting a lot of their money on them and it's not their fault
    -It makes the users have yellow teeth, cough a lot and become on the whole a lot less attractive
    -it stinks to the high heavens!

    I would like to be able to walk around the high streets without deadly cigarette smoke being blown into my face by the person in front of me.

    As a non-smoker I am unaware of any potential benefits to smoking things that will kill you and everything around you. If there are any, I will be very shocked.

    Any opinions?
    While we are at it, we should ban fast food restaurants, KFC and McDonalds as they are contributing to high levels of obesity. They are no good to anyone. They cost taxpayers a fortune. People can become addicted to fatty foods.

    Let people do what they want.
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    Smoking is not for everyone, i've known people who smoked till the tender age of 86.
    Now i dont smoke, neither im i saying its good but its just not for anybody.

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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Except that there are benefits to alcohol in small quantities.
    You seem to be forgetting that some studies have shown that smoking helps decrease the likelihood of developing Alzheimer's :holmes:
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Several studies (including one I have on a pen-drive somewhere) have found that those who drink one drink a day/every 2 days live longer than both those who drink a lot and those that don't drink at all.
    Those that don't drink at all will normally be a little abnormal, not drinking because of health reasons or past alcoholism. Those that drink small amounts regularly are more likely to be well off, eat healthier and do more exercise. These studies are almost always funded by the alcohol industry, so often exaggerated with anything they don't like not being published.
    Last edited by n00; 12-07-2012 at 10:07.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by niareb)
    I would like to be able to walk around the high streets without deadly cigarette smoke being blown into my face by the person in front of me.

    Cigarette smoke being blown into your face by the person in front of you is about as deadly as a wet fart.
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    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    But the amount of smoke you will breath in from walking past someone smoking is so negligible that it isn't dangerous.
    Whilst this is true for the majority of people, secondhand smoke can be an asthma trigger for some asthma sufferers. If I walk past someone smoking, I sometimes feel wheezy - so smoking can harm others.
    Although in the street it is possible to avoid smokers, what really annoys me is people smoking in queues. I went to Thorpe Park the other day and loads of people smoke in the queue lines where it's harder to escape them.

    Although I don't think stopping people from smoking would be practical, smokers do need to have more awareness of people around them, eg asthma sufferers, whose health could be seriously affected by smoke.


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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by codle)
    Whilst this is true for the majority of people, secondhand smoke can be an asthma trigger for some asthma sufferers.
    So can perfume.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    They say "THESE WILL KILL YOU" in big bold letters and have pictures of cancerous lungs printed on them, everyone knows that they are dangerous.
    Of course they do, which is why this information needs to continue. But when you talk about 'making' people do things, you're in dangerous, almost Orwellian, moral territory.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    I find the pipe-puffing men archetype humans. Sovereigns of our time! :bong:
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    I hate tobacco (i prefer cannabis with no tobacco in my joints) but i believe it is a human right that people can put whatever the hell they want in their bodys, good or bad. People should stop worrying about what other people are putting in their bodys.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by niareb)
    I can only think of disadvantages to cigarettes and not one single benefit.
    -They kill the people who smoke them
    Are a significant contributing factor to the deaths of some*
    -They are addictive and people become dependant on them
    OK
    -They kill people who don't smoke (which is unfair)
    Is there much actual evidence of this?
    -This are dangerous to small children and toddlers (which is once again, not fair)
    Again, how much evidence?
    -Poorer people who are addicted are wasting a lot of their money on them and it's not their fault
    It kinda is their fault.
    -It makes the users have yellow teeth, cough a lot and become on the whole a lot less attractive
    Their choice.
    -it stinks to the high heavens!
    Grungy pubs smell worse now tbh.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by Norton1)
    Did these studies compensate for the fact that people who don't drink might have something else wrong with them? For example, might have been alcoholics in the past or have a medical condition that makes drinking dangerous? Are they a truly representative sample of the population?
    I don't know about them all, but I know at least one that I have read the 0 alcohol group had to be otherwise healthy.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by Tahooper)
    You seem to be forgetting that some studies have shown that smoking helps decrease the likelihood of developing Alzheimer's :holmes:
    I wonder if they don't develop Alzheimer's because they die from lung cancer before they're old enough to be effected?
    Anyway, I'd like to see these studies.

    (Original post by n00)
    Those that don't drink at all will normally be a little abnormal, not drinking because of health reasons or past alcoholism. Those that drink small amounts regularly are more likely to be well off, eat healthier and do more exercise. These studies are almost always funded by the alcohol industry, so often exaggerated with anything they don't like not being published.
    At least one of the studies I read (not sure if its the one on a pen drive or not) the 0 alcohol group had to be otherwise healthy.
    These other things may make a difference, but if they still live longer when than those who don't drink at all, then the alcohol cannot be harmful in a reasonable amount.
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    Re: People should be made to quit smoking?
    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    But the amount of smoke you will breath in from walking past someone smoking is so negligible that it isn't dangerous.
    Article showing increase in particulate matter at building entrances:

    http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/conten...41277.abstract


    Article showing relationship between particulate matter and second-hand risk of lung cancer and cardiovascular disease:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3226505/

    (Hint: they're strongly linked)

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