[Indo-Chinese Food]

Assuming obviously that you come from muslim families and are on good terms with them - how safe would you feel in your own personal safety from your family, brothers, father, uncles, cousins etc IF you were seen having a relationship with a non muslim male.

This may be a question you may not actually know the answer to unless it ever happened and you discovered your families reaction, but in light of various horrific cases in the uk recently of young muslim girls going missing then being found murdered and their families in court seemingly trying to cover up each others actions ( as in the current shafelia ahmed case for example) - Would you be confident the men in your family wouldnt react in this way?

[Azaro]

they would lice in constant fear and danger

[pr0view]

Looks like Muslim females aren't allowed to be let loose on the internet from the many responses to your question.

[prog2djent]

I'm bumping this for you.

[mare?]

First of all, and it gets old having to repeat this over and over again, this is not a religious issue; it differs per culture, ok? ok!

To answer your question: My brother would not care, my parents would not be happy (understatement of the century) but to speak of a life threating situation would be a exaggeration I think. But, I should emphasize, these words are empty as I (and many girls like me) would never consider such a partner to begin with.

So no orientalistic doom scenario here I'm afraid

[JammyChoos]

Well my parents would be upset but they wouldnt go as far as 'honor killing'. And my brothers cant say nothing because
a) it has nothing to do with them
b) they are cowards.

I dont have any other family so uncles etc arent in the picture

[ExMuslim]

It would be a major HARAM for a Muslim girl to be with any man who she is not related to nor married to, but a non Muslim one in particular would no doubt cause mass hysteria in any religious Muslim household. If they are from an immigrant background no doubt she would be sent back to her country of origin and married off to kin...

[JammyChoos]

Also I forgot to add, my parents once said to me after watching the news about some girl in an honor killing,
"I dont know how someone can kill their own child. I dont care if you go and marry a non muslim, I could never kill you..".

[123maz]

it would be bad yes a non muslim but not as far as killing me or the partner for example.
probably family not talking to you and may getting kicked out the house, ohh trust me its bad.

[RevisionSuckss]

I was dating a white British Christian guy for approximately a year and a half and my mother knew aswel as my brothers. My brothers didn't care as long as I wasn't sleeping around or anything.
My mum didn't like it and not because he was white or anything but always told me that he might leave and break my heart - bless her, but most importantly she didn't like it because she believed that he wouldnt understand our cultural and religious differences and I agreed to a certain extent - needless to say we broke up because I believed I would have wasted his time as there was no way for us to get any more serious then we already were. It was hard but I've always wanted my husband to be a Muslim even though I'm not that religious but It's just I think I would be more comfortable with that. Anyway back to your question, mum knew she was worried but she knew I liked him a lot, my brothers didn't care, any other family members don't have the right to say nothing.

[SirRamAlot]

I'd be scared for my vag and bumhole.

[Slushxx]

I'm not a Muslim (I used to be) my family are and I used to date a non Muslim guy and in all honesty if they did find out things would have got mental, they would seriously not be happy about it whatsoever. I highly doubt they'd kill me or physically harm me in any way though. My siblings knew and they didn't really care too much.

I also know a religious Muslim girl who dated an agnostic guy and she told me at the time if her parents found out they would flip.

Most families wouldn't respond using murder OP, they would just take out their disappointment, shame, anger and what not in other ways, usually by constant surveillance, restricting their movement and things like that and in some cases like someone already mentioned "sending them back home"

[cowsforsale]

(Original post by JammyChoos)
Also I forgot to add, my parents once said to me after watching the news about some girl in an honor killing,
"I dont know how someone can kill their own child. I dont care if you go and marry a non muslim, I could never kill you..".

The fact that your parents had to say that scares the **** out of me.

[TomInce6666]

<--- firstly, not muslim female

however, I am a non muslim male who has dated a nonmuslim female.

Her parents were fine with it all the way. Just had issues with us sleeping in the same beds when we were together. But I had an apartment so she'd stay over at mine and there was no issue...

[naiadania]

They're not Muslims (submitters to Allah, followers of the Straight Path) if they have such a relationship, which is forbidden in Islam. Invalid question

Or, in other words:

(Original post by Alia223)
Just to mention the obvious, any woman who calls herself Muslim would never be involved with a non-Muslim man in the first place. She shouldn't be fearing her relatives more than fearing her Lord because if she was a true practicing Muslim, she would follow and respect the commands of her Lord.

Edit: Thanks for the dislikes. I guess nothing bothers you people more than seeing a Muslim practising their religion

[JammyChoos]

(Original post by cowsforsale)
The fact that your parents had to say that scares the **** out of me.

Really? Why? lol
I was flattered that they cared so much.

[Politricks]

(Original post by naiadania)
They're not Muslims (submitters to Allah, followers of the Straight Path) if they have such a relationship, which is forbidden in Islam.

Invalid question

Who are you to judge who is and who isn't a Muslim?

Foul behaviour is forbidden in Islam, lying is forbidden in Islam, eating with your left hand is forbidden in Islam; does it mean that you're not a Muslim if you swear, lie and eat with your left hand?

[Flash7]

(Original post by naiadania)
They're not Muslims (submitters to Allah, followers of the Straight Path) if they have such a relationship, which is forbidden in Islam.

Invalid question

Basically, according to your definition, Muslims do not sin. And when they do, they are no longer Muslims, since Muslims only follow the "straight path." Therefore, there are no actual followers of Islam, since all mankind will eventually give into sin or has sinned.

Either acknowledge that they are Muslims and may be have strayed from their beliefs, or acknowledge that if they stray from the straight path of Islam, then they can no longer be a Muslim, in which case there may not be any "real" Muslims.

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by mare?)
First of all, and it gets old having to repeat this over and over again, this is not a religious issue; it differs per culture, ok? ok!

To answer your question: My brother would not care, my parents would not be happy (understatement of the century) but to speak of a life threating situation would be a exaggeration I think. But, I should emphasize, these words are empty as I (and many girls like me) would never consider such a partner to begin with.

So no orientalistic doom scenario here I'm afraid

i think its generally accepted you cant predict or even choose who you fall in love with, you may not have experienced life enough to realise this. Just that fact that you are expected to marry a muslim, doesnt automatically fulfil that criteria
I was simply asking you to imagine a scenario where , for example you wanted to marry a non muslim ( who didnt convert), would you be too afraid to tell your family ?

[mare?]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
i think its generally accepted you cant predict or even choose who you fall in love with, you may not have experienced life enough to realise this. Just that fact that you are expected to marry a muslim, doesnt automatically fulfil that criteria
I was simply asking you to imagine a scenario where , for example you wanted to marry a non muslim ( who didnt convert), would you be too afraid to tell your family ?

No I wouldn't.. and I did play along by picturing your what-if scenario. I just also reminded you that for many it's an unrealistic scenario.