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G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Being the moderate conspiracy theorist that I am (I like to question things on both sides of the spectrum (e.g. no lizard talk please but I equally think the world is ****ed)), I thought I would bring this to people's attention or create a discussion.
About a week ago I stumbled across this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHNSPczJn4 which features an apparent whistleblower journalist who has been working under cover for the security company "G4S" who is in charge of the London 2012 Olympics.
The whistleblower highlights a large number of faults and shortfalls, some very damning and some not so bad.
I recognise that I don't know who this guy is, he could be making it all up for all I know, so I took everything with a pinch of salt.
However, what he was saying stuck in my mind and over the last week a lot of it has started to ring true.
Firstly I don't live very far out of London and the whistleblower mentioned a lot of UN troops have been flying into London under the cover of darkness in helicopters over the past month or so. Since watching the video I have noticed an unprecedented number of helicopters flying over my house from about 8pm onwards throughout the night. Now as much as I'd like to say this is very suspicious, I recognise this is probably not very strange considering the Olympics are approaching. So I carry on.
Then I see this news article today saying that the control of the Olympics is now basically falling to the muilitary http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond...forces_ge.html
Then by chance whilst reading the local news, I see that this same G4S company was going to be one of the companies who will take control of Surrey police force http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18813591.
Then I started to wonder who on Earth is G4S and why are they failing so badly when they had so much trust given to them? Also why were they going to be given control of part of Surrey police force?? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18810473
Now the main theory us conspiracists have is that the western governments will introduce martial law in the next couple of years. This means the military and private companies will be given absolute power over the population.
The aforementioned whistleblower has stated he was instructed to prepare for a full evacuation of London and conspiracy theorists have been talking about how this would quite easily tie in with the 'martial law concept' (i.e. a disaster happens, London is evacuated, the power will be willfully given to the military and private security companies and martial law comes that one step closer).
I might have thought nothing of all this had I not watched the whistleblower video a week before all this stuff came out in the news.
So, how does a trusted security company get such a big contract only to completely mess it all up by leaving everything to the last minute? Why have UN troops been drafted about a month before today's news and flown in overnight? Why are Surrey police looking to privatise?
Discuss!
Edit - My mind is open. I can honestly accept I don't know everything and may well be talking a load of ****, but I'd like to hear contradictory points please.Last edited by Steezy; 12-07-2012 at 14:57. -
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Explain?(Original post by Clip)
About the only thing you have got right in that whole mess is that the Olympic Games will be held in London this year. Other than that, it's just nonsense. -
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Why do you say that? Also why were they given this gigantic contract if they couldn't deal with it?(Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
G4S as a company are the scum of the earth anyway. -
Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?G4S provide ticket inspection services for Northern Rail at major stations around Manchester and Lancashire. Their staff seem to have a superiority complex whenever presented with a uniform and have a demeanour more suited to hired goons for the local villain than the face of a public service, G4S as a collective are a bunch of jumped up little Hitlers with the collective IQ of a potato.(Original post by Steezy)
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?LOL!(Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
G4S provide ticket inspection services for Northern Rail at major stations around Manchester and Lancashire. Their staff seem to have a superiority complex whenever presented with a uniform and have a demeanour more suited to hired goons for the local villain than the face of a public service, G4S as a collective are a bunch of jumped up little Hitlers with the collective IQ of a potato.
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(Original post by Steezy)
Being the moderate conspiracy theorist that I am (I like to question things on both sides of the spectrum (e.g. no lizard talk please but I equally think the world is ****ed)), I thought I would bring this to people's attention or create a discussion.
About a week ago I stumbled across this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHNSPczJn4 which features an apparent whistleblower journalist who has been working under cover for the security company "G4S" who is in charge of the London 2012 Olympics.
The whistleblower highlights a large number of faults and shortfalls, some very damning and some not so bad.
I recognise that I don't know who this guy is, he could be making it all up for all I know, so I took everything with a pinch of salt.
However, what he was saying stuck in my mind and over the last week a lot of it has started to ring true.
Firstly I don't live very far out of London and the whistleblower mentioned a lot of UN troops have been flying into London under the cover of darkness in helicopters over the past month or so. Since watching the video I have noticed an unprecedented number of helicopters flying over my house from about 8pm onwards throughout the night. Now as much as I'd like to say this is very suspicious, I recognise this is probably not very strange considering the Olympics are approaching. So I carry on.
Then I see this news article today saying that the control of the Olympics is now basically falling to the muilitary http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond...forces_ge.html
Then by chance whilst reading the local news, I see that this same G4S company was going to be one of the companies who will take control of Surrey police force http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18813591.
Then I started to wonder who on Earth is G4S and why are they failing so badly when they had so much trust given to them? Also why were they going to be given control of part of Surrey police force?? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18810473
Now the main theory us conspiracists have is that the western governments will introduce martial law in the next couple of years. This means the military and private companies will be given absolute power over the population.
The aforementioned whistleblower has stated he was instructed to prepare for a full evacuation of London and conspiracy theorists have been talking about how this would quite easily tie in with the 'martial law concept' (i.e. a disaster happens, London is evacuated, the power will be willfully given to the military and private security companies and martial law comes that one step closer).
I might have thought nothing of all this had I not watched the whistleblower video a week before all this stuff came out in the news.
So, how does a trusted security company get such a big contract only to completely mess it all up by leaving everything to the last minute? Why have UN troops been drafted about a month before today's news and flown in overnight? Why are Surrey police looking to privatise?
Discuss!
Edit - My mind is open. I can honestly accept I don't know everything and may well be talking a load of ****, but I'd like to hear contradictory points please.
I also watched this video last week thinking this guy is crazy but right now after all this weird stuff with g4s and the military I take back what I said. As soon as I saw the news about this whole security problems that video came into my mind. He might not be crazy after all. KILLUMINATI!!! -
Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Because a few people stand to make a LOT of money from it.(Original post by Steezy)
Why do you say that? Also why were they given this gigantic contract if they couldn't deal with it?
They are closely tied to the government and Olympics. G4S chairman John Connolly is also the Chairman of the board of London 2012 sponsors, and Tom Winsor, the current Chief Inspector of the Constabulary, is a lawyer who advised G4S on a £200 million policing contract they secured:
http://www.g4s.com/en/Investors/News...ard%20Changes/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-18101548
Disgraceful corruption, and quite frankly, it is terrifying that this incompetent, abusive company is in charge of security.Last edited by biggie; 13-07-2012 at 00:42. -
Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?
The thing I find odd about G4S is that they seem to hire everyone. I sent a CV their way last summer, as I was sending them to everyone, and to my surprise they offered me a job. I'm 5'7, weigh < 130lb and couldn't run 200m without collapsing, how on earth could I be a security guard?
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A far more likely explanation is that intel has recently been gathered of an imminent threat to national security.
Watching newsnight tonight no one asked the simple question of what had suddenly changed.
The m4 has now been closed for a prolonged period of time to repair a 'crack' in the road. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if someone blew up a bridge support over the main road to olympics.
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Being the largest private security firm in the world and second largest company in the world after wal-mart [if i remember rightly] its fair that the government expected them not to cock up quite so spectacularly but hey given the governments track record i think we should excuse this(Original post by Steezy)
Why do you say that? Also why were they given this gigantic contract if they couldn't deal with it?
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?Really? I always thought second largest was ExxonMobil.(Original post by cl_steele)
Being the largest private security firm in the world and second largest company in the world after wal-mart [if i remember rightly] its fair that the government expected them not to cock up quite so spectacularly but hey given the governments track record i think we should excuse this
This is a very interesting video, however I always take these whistleblower videos with a pinch of salt. I can never tell if the people creating the video have just picked some random bloke and told him to make up all this ****. -
Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?sorry my mistake its a bit further down its at 8 but a few of those are government owned industries so meh(Original post by Maxima)
Really? I always thought second largest was ExxonMobil.
This is a very interesting video, however I always take these whistleblower videos with a pinch of salt. I can never tell if the people creating the video have just picked some random bloke and told him to make up all this ****.
but i meant by employee numbers 
mmm i agree they are quite amusing to watch though
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?They were not given the contracts because they are good, but only because they are the world's largest security company. Boris himself in London's Conversation stated that and workers of that company have reported the poor quality of training. The company is big because over a short period of time it has fused with so many important security firms, you can confirm this last thing by making some research yourself.(Original post by Steezy)
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?I don't think your talking **** at all!! But at the end of the day nobody know's what's going to happen at the London 2012 games. Alot of people think it's just a 'conspiracy' but I don't think this I kinda believe it tbh, the illuminati are just fu**ing weirdo's who want to bring in the New World Order (N.W.O) which is to fake a disaster so they can bring in marshall law. Remember it's all about control at the end of the day!! Just like they blown up the twin towers- me, you and we need to open our eyes. Obviously there's nothing we can do about it but it's good to know. Many don't believe I don't really give a sh** tbh!! You don't need to write your stupid comments unless you have something constructive to say.(Original post by Steezy)
Being the moderate conspiracy theorist that I am (I like to question things on both sides of the spectrum (e.g. no lizard talk please but I equally think the world is ****ed)), I thought I would bring this to people's attention or create a discussion.
About a week ago I stumbled across this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pHNSPczJn4 which features an apparent whistleblower journalist who has been working under cover for the security company "G4S" who is in charge of the London 2012 Olympics.
The whistleblower highlights a large number of faults and shortfalls, some very damning and some not so bad.
I recognise that I don't know who this guy is, he could be making it all up for all I know, so I took everything with a pinch of salt.
However, what he was saying stuck in my mind and over the last week a lot of it has started to ring true.
Firstly I don't live very far out of London and the whistleblower mentioned a lot of UN troops have been flying into London under the cover of darkness in helicopters over the past month or so. Since watching the video I have noticed an unprecedented number of helicopters flying over my house from about 8pm onwards throughout the night. Now as much as I'd like to say this is very suspicious, I recognise this is probably not very strange considering the Olympics are approaching. So I carry on.
Then I see this news article today saying that the control of the Olympics is now basically falling to the muilitary http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/davidbond...forces_ge.html
Then by chance whilst reading the local news, I see that this same G4S company was going to be one of the companies who will take control of Surrey police force http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-18813591.
Then I started to wonder who on Earth is G4S and why are they failing so badly when they had so much trust given to them? Also why were they going to be given control of part of Surrey police force?? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18810473
Now the main theory us conspiracists have is that the western governments will introduce martial law in the next couple of years. This means the military and private companies will be given absolute power over the population.
The aforementioned whistleblower has stated he was instructed to prepare for a full evacuation of London and conspiracy theorists have been talking about how this would quite easily tie in with the 'martial law concept' (i.e. a disaster happens, London is evacuated, the power will be willfully given to the military and private security companies and martial law comes that one step closer).
I might have thought nothing of all this had I not watched the whistleblower video a week before all this stuff came out in the news.
So, how does a trusted security company get such a big contract only to completely mess it all up by leaving everything to the last minute? Why have UN troops been drafted about a month before today's news and flown in overnight? Why are Surrey police looking to privatise?
Discuss!
Edit - My mind is open. I can honestly accept I don't know everything and may well be talking a load of ****, but I'd like to hear contradictory points please.
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Re: G4S - security holes & shortfalls - negligence or something more sinister?YYYEAAAHHH MAAAANNN, ITS THE COOOOORRRRPPOORRRRATTTIIOOOONNNN SSSS,(Original post by Shaq_N0.1)
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WHEN WILL PEOPLE OPEN.THEIR.EYES, WHEN WILL PEOPLE W.A.K.E U.P. DUDE, THEY ARE ALLLLLLL BLIND IN TEH MAAACCHIIIINNE
FFS when will you people make up your own opinion, instead of just spouting off the BS some guy on the internet and their stupid followers and community bleat on about, ever notice how these Illuminati and NWO conspiracy theorist are usually teenagers or people with very, very little education, even those trying to make name for themselves? These conspiracy theorists, atleast the famous ones, are just exploiting the market, they are filling a counter-culture niche and making money from you people.
I hate people like you, like you are some sort of enlightened human on their way to ascension above the rest of us automatons. You aren't, the NWO? What? Rich people who congregate together? Have their own clubs? And may lobby the state to get their way? Or indeed, may use the state (an entity that is an extension of private interests) or their own entourage to do things seen as immoral (war) in order to get $$$?
NO F****** S*** Genius, that's how the world has worked ever since the fall of feudalism, you don't think other people know that the elite all like this?
And do you know what really makes me laugh, REALLY makes me laugh? The fact that that the NWO/Illuminati/Freemason conspiracy stems from .... guess what, R.E ******* ligion. Christians in europe have been against free-masonary from day 1, only beacuse its a different denomination of the mainstream, and vows that sticking to one religion isn't what matters, all you need to believe is, there is a god, the Catholic Church hate that, they hate that they stranglehold on Religion and the choice of men is/was being lost to the enlightenment peiord. Once you delve down further and further into this rubbish, you eventually find that either a) Lizards run the world, b) Some weird occult practices about the planet Nibiru and aliens, c) Right wing isolationist Christians in America (that started of the NWO thing) who think its all a Jewish plot, because Jews killed Jesus remember? A lot of American evangelicals and fundamentalists are still very angry at that. d) Satanism, against stemming from American Christians and the catholic church (also one of the most anti-semitic factions about from the arab world) who think its the end times, the anti-christ blah blah, and finally, the newest conspirators, e) Arabs and Muslims, who were obviously very susceptible to the ideas because of the whole Israel/zion scenario, because of the "jews control the world" schtick from the Christian Right, it was an easy match up.
This is why I laugh, because these conspiracies, are nothing more than religious propaganda against free will, individualism and secularism, of which the catholic church, the American Christian right, and Muslims have been trying to crush ... continually.
Hey buddy, guess what?
What you think, your so-called "enlightenment" is nothing more than you eating up the divine and theocratic nonsense from Religious idiots, the real blind people who need to wake up are them, and you. Northing can be more stupid and devoid of any reality is religion and its followers.
Peace.Last edited by prog2djent; 13-07-2012 at 11:51.
but i meant by employee numbers 