[Steezy]

(Original post by prog2djent)
YYYEAAAHHH MAAAANNN, ITS THE COOOOORRRRPPOORRRRATTTIIOOOONNNN SSSS,

WHEN WILL PEOPLE OPEN.THEIR.EYES, WHEN WILL PEOPLE W.A.K.E U.P. DUDE, THEY ARE ALLLLLLL BLIND IN TEH MAAACCHIIIINNE

FFS when will you people make up your own opinion, instead of just spouting off the BS some guy on the internet and their stupid followers and community bleat on about, ever notice how these Illuminati and NWO conspiracy theorist are usually teenagers or people with very, very little education, even those trying to make name for themselves? These conspiracy theorists, atleast the famous ones, are just exploiting the market, they are filling a counter-culture niche and making money from you people.

I hate people like you, like you are some sort of enlightened human on their way to ascension above the rest of us automatons. You aren't, the NWO? What? Rich people who congregate together? Have their own clubs? And may lobby the state to get their way? Or indeed, may use the state (an entity that is an extension of private interests) or their own entourage to do things seen as immoral (war) in order to get $$$?

NO F****** S*** Genius, that's how the world has worked ever since the fall of feudalism, you don't think other people know that the elite all like this?

And do you know what really makes me laugh, REALLY makes me laugh? The fact that that the NWO/Illuminati/Freemason conspiracy stems from .... guess what, R.E ******* ligion. Christians in europe have been against free-masonary from day 1, only beacuse its a different denomination of the mainstream, and vows that sticking to one religion isn't what matters, all you need to believe is, there is a god, the Catholic Church hate that, they hate that they stranglehold on Religion and the choice of men is/was being lost to the enlightenment peiord. Once you delve down further and further into this rubbish, you eventually find that either a) Lizards run the world, b) Some weird occult practices about the planet Nibiru and aliens, c) Right wing isolationist Christians in America (that started of the NWO thing) who think its all a Jewish plot, because Jews killed Jesus remember? A lot of American evangelicals and fundamentalists are still very angry at that. d) Satanism, against stemming from American Christians and the catholic church (also one of the most anti-semitic factions about from the arab world) who think its the end times, the anti-christ blah blah, and finally, the newest conspirators, e) Arabs and Muslims, who were obviously very susceptible to the ideas because of the whole Israel/zion scenario, because of the "jews control the world" schtick from the Christian Right, it was an easy match up.

This is why I laugh, because these conspiracies, are nothing more than religious propaganda against free will, individualism and secularism, of which the catholic church, the American Christian right, and Muslims have been trying to crush ... continually.

Hey buddy, guess what?

What you think, your so-called "enlightenment" is nothing more than you eating up the divine and theocratic nonsense from Religious idiots, the real blind people who need to wake up are them, and you. Northing can be more stupid and devoid of any reality is religion and its followers.

Peace.

Chill bro....

Anything to say on the topic of G4S?

[geetar]

No, it's just that G4S are a ****ing incompetent company. There's a whole list of their past failures, especially in running prisons and immigration centres. Yet still successive governments persist with the PFI dream, which always ends the same way: poor service, followed by a massive loss for the state and the taxpayer, and the only winners are the company management. It's been exactly the same story across all sorts of areas: education, health, defence, housing - under New Labour, who pioneered these kinds of projects, £billions and £billions (no exaggeration) of public money has been wasted, and has encouraged the kind of complacency and shoddy organisation that we are seeing here.

[Algorithm69]

(Original post by Shaq_N0.1)
I don't think your talking **** at all!! But at the end of the day nobody know's what's going to happen at the London 2012 games. Alot of people think it's just a 'conspiracy' but I don't think this I kinda believe it tbh, the illuminati are just fu**ing weirdo's who want to bring in the New World Order (N.W.O) which is to fake a disaster so they can bring in marshall law. Remember it's all about control at the end of the day!! Just like they blown up the twin towers- me, you and we need to open our eyes. Obviously there's nothing we can do about it but it's good to know. Many don't believe I don't really give a sh** tbh!! You don't need to write your stupid comments unless you have something constructive to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRcED0OsZN0

I expected nothing less from a user who has a grammatically incorrect avatar.

[HomoSapiensSap]

(Original post by Steezy)
Chill bro....

Anything to say on the topic of G4S?

Unfortunately, the 'whistleblower' is certainly partly right about the very lax security arrangements. Sky News reports that another whistleblower has warned that there is a 50% chance that somebody will successfully carry a bomb into one of the Olympic venues. This whistleblower has extensive military and professional security training and is an expert in weapons and IED detection and he was observing the security 'training'. Source: http://news.sky.com/story/959450/whi...curity-warning

I thought it couldn't get any worse...

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by Steezy)
My mind is open.

If your mind is open, then it is at risk. Please put a tin foil hat on immediately.

[Steezy]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
If your mind is open, then it is at risk. Please put a tin foil hat on immediately.

Very funny guy. Anything productive to input into the discussion? I can see from your sig that you like people to explain if they disagree...

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by Steezy)
Very funny guy. Anything productive to input into the discussion? I can see from your sig that you like people to explain if they disagree...

I am sorry, your world view is so removed from mine, the a debate would be impossible because we could not agree rational premises for that debate.

[Steezy]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
I am sorry, your world view is so removed from mine, the a debate would be impossible because we could not agree rational premises for that debate.

Bit of a cop out really mate. I haven't really expressed my world view in this thread. I posted a video and gave a few links which support what was said in the video.

I added a bit of speculation but I haven't said anything ridiculous really. I also said I may be completely wrong.

Your input has been a cliched insult with no debate or reasoning involved whatsoever.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by Steezy)
Bit of a cop out really mate. I haven't really expressed my world view in this thread. I posted a video and gave a few links which support what was said in the video.

I added a bit of speculation but I haven't said anything ridiculous really. I also said I may be completely wrong.

Your input has been a cliched insult with no debate or reasoning involved whatsoever.

Please show me the Security Council resolutions (a) creating a UN Army (as opposed to troops sent by a member state); and (b) authorising their deployment to the United Kingdom.

You have a world view in which these two events could happen without public knowledge and I don't and that gulf is unbridgeable.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Illuminati they're coming, kony 2012, jayson Zed, kanye west, queen elizabeth, tony bush blair, 9/11 was an inside job. It's coming it all points to now. The lizard people are coming all the need to do now is wait for sammo leader of martial law to give the order and it will be done!!!

[coopsyy]

The papers and the public need to stop giving G4S such a hard time. They signed the contract back at the start of 2010, for 4000 staff. The Games then asked, in december 2011, for 9000 more staff. That only gave them say 6/7 months to find advertise, whole job application process, job interview, screening, back ground checks, months of training for 9000 more staff. That isn't exactly long. And to start with, you need to find 9000 people with the right experience/qualifications G4S were asking for, who live in proximity to London, who only want a job for about a month.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by coopsyy)
The papers and the public need to stop giving G4S such a hard time. They signed the contract back at the start of 2010, for 4000 staff. The Games then asked, in december 2011, for 9000 more staff. That only gave them say 6/7 months to find advertise, whole job application process, job interview, screening, back ground checks, months of training for 9000 more staff. That isn't exactly long. And to start with, you need to find 9000 people with the right experience/qualifications G4S were asking for, who live in proximity to London, who only want a job for about a month.

And where is the email from G4S saying:

Sorry. Kind of you to ask us, but we can't handle a job of that size. Another 3000 is our absolute limit and even at that level there might be reliability issues with the staff not turning up.

[Joinedup]

It's quite a long established security company, which used to be called group 4 security. They used to do a lot of armoured car wage deliveries back when people were still paid in cash.

These days they're better known for letting criminals escape while transporting them from court to prison.

[greasymonkey93]

Ok we have some people here chatting rubbish ....its the corporation illumanati nonsense we are all doomed.....when will peple grow up!!!

G4s are the scums of the world and how can nick buckles of g4s still want to claim the 57m in management fees!! If i was there i would have been templed to punch him....see what he could do when his so called g4s security are not around him.

I was one of 1000s of people in the recruitment stage.....so fact have not got anywhere and its been a nightmare trying to trace down what's going on....even the recruitment people don't know what is going on when i call their premium number !?

Serious question .....does anyone know if we could sue and how we could sue the g4s b#*+#ds

Hr

[DarkTitan]

(Original post by prog2djent)
YYYEAAAHHH MAAAANNN, ITS THE COOOOORRRRPPOORRRRATTTIIOOOONNNN SSSS,

WHEN WILL PEOPLE OPEN.THEIR.EYES, WHEN WILL PEOPLE W.A.K.E U.P. DUDE, THEY ARE ALLLLLLL BLIND IN TEH MAAACCHIIIINNE

FFS when will you people make up your own opinion, instead of just spouting off the BS some guy on the internet and their stupid followers and community bleat on about, ever notice how these Illuminati and NWO conspiracy theorist are usually teenagers or people with very, very little education, even those trying to make name for themselves? These conspiracy theorists, atleast the famous ones, are just exploiting the market, they are filling a counter-culture niche and making money from you people.

I hate people like you, like you are some sort of enlightened human on their way to ascension above the rest of us automatons. You aren't, the NWO? What? Rich people who congregate together? Have their own clubs? And may lobby the state to get their way? Or indeed, may use the state (an entity that is an extension of private interests) or their own entourage to do things seen as immoral (war) in order to get $$$?

NO F****** S*** Genius, that's how the world has worked ever since the fall of feudalism, you don't think other people know that the elite all like this?

And do you know what really makes me laugh, REALLY makes me laugh? The fact that that the NWO/Illuminati/Freemason conspiracy stems from .... guess what, R.E ******* ligion. Christians in europe have been against free-masonary from day 1, only beacuse its a different denomination of the mainstream, and vows that sticking to one religion isn't what matters, all you need to believe is, there is a god, the Catholic Church hate that, they hate that they stranglehold on Religion and the choice of men is/was being lost to the enlightenment peiord. Once you delve down further and further into this rubbish, you eventually find that either a) Lizards run the world, b) Some weird occult practices about the planet Nibiru and aliens, c) Right wing isolationist Christians in America (that started of the NWO thing) who think its all a Jewish plot, because Jews killed Jesus remember? A lot of American evangelicals and fundamentalists are still very angry at that. d) Satanism, against stemming from American Christians and the catholic church (also one of the most anti-semitic factions about from the arab world) who think its the end times, the anti-christ blah blah, and finally, the newest conspirators, e) Arabs and Muslims, who were obviously very susceptible to the ideas because of the whole Israel/zion scenario, because of the "jews control the world" schtick from the Christian Right, it was an easy match up.

This is why I laugh, because these conspiracies, are nothing more than religious propaganda against free will, individualism and secularism, of which the catholic church, the American Christian right, and Muslims have been trying to crush ... continually.

Hey buddy, guess what?

What you think, your so-called "enlightenment" is nothing more than you eating up the divine and theocratic nonsense from Religious idiots, the real blind people who need to wake up are them, and you. Northing can be more stupid and devoid of any reality is religion and its followers.

Peace.

cool story bro

[Steezy]

(Original post by alexmcf)
A far more likely explanation is that intel has recently been gathered of an imminent threat to national security.
Watching newsnight tonight no one asked the simple question of what had suddenly changed.
The m4 has now been closed for a prolonged period of time to repair a 'crack' in the road. Imagine the chaos that would ensue if someone blew up a bridge support over the main road to olympics.


This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App

Well one theory (one that I believe) for what had changed was that the whistleblower came out.

Apparently there had been a media blackout regarding anything bad relating to the olympics preparation and organisation. Then this whistleblower comes out, highlights a number of flaws and suddenly the media are all over it (although non mention said whistleblower).

Looks like damage control to me... The problem is most likely much bigger than we are being told.

[cpthenry]

First post ever!

Right I found this thread as I was googling about the G4S conspiracy - not because I heard this whistleblower story, just because I had funny feeling about the whole saga. I signed up to say my piece.

Isn't one of Hitlers (don't panic) famous quotes 'Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it....' Well the way the G4S has been thrust at us with tha televised grilling of their gaffer definitely seemed to be a bit along these likes. Like reality tv politics.

1. The Olympics is kind of a big deal, for the country, for the government, for us all
2. Security at the Olympic is definitely one of the key things you want to get right, manage it well, leave nothing to chance etc

Are we to believe that the goverment gave G4S their security requirements and then just said 'ta ta then, see you in july 2012' without regualr two-way communication? Surely they would have demanded names, photographs etc for their own checks, or just some basic auditing, anything that would have begged the question "ok, but where are the other 60 pages?" ?!

Why did it get so close to the finish line before it was highlighted, and for the shortcomings to be so spectacular?!

It's my opinion that the government wished to use the military all along but didn't fancy selling that idea to the British public, let's face it I don't think it would have had a positive effect on ticket sales, it would have scared the crap out of some folk.

G4S were used as a pawn and a big fat excuse, totally onboard with it and totally paid for it.

The WHY I'm afraid I don't have any strong suspicion about, but one things for sure it was no cock-up, the G4S failure was too convenient, and the military recovery of the situation far too slick and accepted by the media and the public. So long as we're all cursing G4S while we watch the 10 o'clock spitting at the telly as he asks for his management fee we're not considering what it'll feel like to have 10,000 armed soldiers patroling our capital.

I don't think it's been done to hatch some kind of sinister strike like I've read on some pages, but it does seem a bit unbelievable.