[lesley keith]

..........to help improve the "economy."

Do they think the English. Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish people are still dumb enough to fall for this excuse? I am surprised he didn't add "we need more doctors" and "to do they jobs the British won't do."

So current predictions would be England would be minority White by 2066, yet DESPITE knowing this "politicians" such as Osborne are continuing to insist we need MORE immigration.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...g-7939667.html

At least Miliband said Blair got it wrong on EU IMMIGRATION.........oh wait Millipede....i just realized........what about the NON EU IMMIGRATION

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...gration-labour

[PicardianSocialist]

Why exactly is immigration a bad thing again?

[JamesNeedHelp2]

(Original post by PicardianSocialist)
Why exactly is immigration a bad thing again?

This.

[M^2012]

Ok, let's let nobody immigrate and just sit back as we all get old, with few children to support us, and try to live under a government unable to pay anybody sufficient pensions/invest in anything.

[pr0view]

(Original post by M^2012)
Ok, let's let nobody immigrate and just sit back as we all get old, with few children to support us, and try to live under a government unable to pay anybody sufficient pensions/invest in anything.

Or we could just have Children like we have done for the past 200,000 years.

[pr0view]

(Original post by PicardianSocialist)
Why exactly is immigration a bad thing again?

Its not in times of economic prosperity when the country has low unemployment and the immigration level is tightly controlled to ensure new arrivals have the required skills and attitudes to work and integrate into British society.

But lets be real bringing 250,000 plus people of which many are not the doctors and scientists that politicians pretend them to be into an already overpopulated country every year against the wishes of the electorate is only effective at turning your once peaceful country into a potential Yugoslavia.

[ukip72]

Another nice excuse for this pathetic governments failure to reduce migration and keep their manifesto pledge. The Tories make me sick.

[M^2012]

(Original post by pr0view)
Or we could just have Children like we have done for the past 200,000 years.

...but we aren't, at least not as much.

[PicardianSocialist]

(Original post by pr0view)
Its not in times of economic prosperity when the country has low unemployment and the immigration level is tightly controlled to ensure new arrivals have the required skills and attitudes to work and integrate into British society.

There is a natural mechanism for determining whether someone has the skills to work in Britain and it's called the market. If you can find a job, you have the skills to work here.

(Original post by pr0view)
But lets be real bringing 250,000 plus people of which many are not the doctors and scientists that politicians pretend them to be into an already overpopulated country every year against the wishes of the electorate is only effective at turning your once peaceful country into a potential Yugoslavia.

I don't necessarily want more doctors and scientists. I might want to employ a janitor, a night watchmen or a street sweeper. Why can't these people come in?

[feelingsupersonic]

Our population is ageing greatly. We need more young, economically active people or else we will struggle greatly.

[bmqib]

Yup, just be selective about who you allow in. Kick out the non contributing immigrants if you have to.

[pr0view]

(Original post by PicardianSocialist)
There is a natural mechanism for determining whether someone has the skills to work in Britain and it's called the market. If you can find a job, you have the skills to work here.

Some people may be able to find work here but in doing so they will be putting someone who was born here out of a job. The same amount of people are still working but instead someone else is now claiming JSA.

(Original post by PicardianSocialist)
I don't necessarily want more doctors and scientists. I might want to employ a janitor, a night watchmen or a street sweeper. Why can't these people come in?

Because there are plenty of unemployed people in the UK who can do these jobs and before you said they won't do them well lets just make it clear the government should make them by withdrawing JSA as soon as it is clear a job has been made available to them.

[pr0view]

(Original post by M^2012)
...but we aren't, at least not as much.

I'm sure we could find a fix rather than use it as a pathetic excuse to keep shipping in immigrants.

[Gangee]

He's off his rocker, we need to cut immigration - us Brits desperately need the jobs

[Jack93o]

LOL what a shambles

[M^2012]

(Original post by pr0view)
I'm sure we could find a fix rather than use it as a pathetic excuse to keep shipping in immigrants.

Surely "shipping in immigrants" is a pretty effective "fix"?

I also don't understand why it's a "pathetic excuse", exactly?

[x_Natalie_x]

(Original post by feelingsupersonic)
Our population is ageing greatly. We need more young, economically active people or else we will struggle greatly.

I greatly disagree with you

[boba]

(Original post by pr0view)
I'm sure we could find a fix rather than use it as a pathetic excuse to keep shipping in immigrants.

how? how are you going to force people to have more children

[Will Lucky]

(Original post by pr0view)
Or we could just have Children like we have done for the past 200,000 years.

Yeah, forcing the population to have children sounds like a great idea, be sure to tell me how that works out.

[pr0view]

(Original post by M^2012)
Surely "shipping in immigrants" is a pretty effective "fix"?

I also don't understand why it's a "pathetic excuse", exactly?

It might be effective but its a fairly extreme measure to start replacing an entire ethnic group with another rather that just encourage the other to reproduce.