Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?You've claimed species cannot be clustered, or arranged into taxons (classified) etc. Yet this isn't true. Are you saying you think a bee is the same as an ant?(Original post by whyumadtho)
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Proof of a concept requires the invocation of science.(Original post by democracyforum)
If you were to prove unicorns exist, you STILL wouldn't need science.
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Anything can be arbitrarily clustered, which is why there are ~28 arbitrary definitions in use today + various other ones that aren't as prominent/other systems that deviate from Linnean taxonomy altogether.(Original post by Pyramidologist)
You've claimed species cannot be clustered, or arranged into taxons (classified) etc. Yet this isn't true.
No, I'm saying every organism is different and the basis of grouping will always be socially constructed, as Mishler (2009) said.Are you saying you think a bee is the same as an ant? -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Or just the visual appearance.(Original post by whyumadtho)
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?(Original post by democracyforum)
Or just the visual appearance.
Loch Ness exists.
Fairies exist.
Mermaids exist.
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Silly.....
The point is, we categorise and associate by visual appearance.
You don't need to use science to know the difference between a snail and a zebra.
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?I can differentiate between you and your father based on your visual appearances; why are you not different 'races'?(Original post by democracyforum)
Silly.....
The point is, we categorise and associate by visual appearance.
You don't need to use science to know the difference between a snail and a zebra.
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Just completed -(Original post by whyumadtho)
I can differentiate between you and your father based on your visual appearances; why are you not different 'races'?
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_denialism
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Take your liberal nonsense elsewhere.(Original post by Suetonius)
But of course. The human race. -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?*sigh*
Britons: Celts diluted slightly by the wide range of ethinicities brought over by the Romans.
Welsh: Britons.
English: Mix of Britons and Saxons.
Irish: Gaels.
Scottish: Gaels mixed with Picts. -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Believing in race is like believing that the only colours are red, blue and green.(Original post by Pyramidologist)
Just completed -
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_denialism
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Is this supposed to mean something to me? Don't bother posting if you have no intention of presenting a cogent counterargument.(Original post by Pyramidologist)
Just completed -
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_denialism
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?(Original post by whyumadtho)
I can differentiate between you and your father based on your visual appearances; why are you not different 'races'?
Because you can base it on skin colour, face structure and body type.
White people, Central or Northern European type.
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Yes, which is why I can distinguish between you and your father. Why are you not different 'races'?(Original post by democracyforum)
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Because he did not race mix.(Original post by whyumadtho)
Yes, which is why I can distinguish between you and your father. Why are you not different 'races'? -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?(Original post by democracyforum)
Because he did not race mix.
Let me try again:
If person A and person B are different 'races' because they have, and I quote, different "skin [colours], face [structures] and body [types]", and you and your father have different "skin [colours]*, face [structures] and body [types]", why are you and your father not different 'races'?
*You have had different exposures to the environment so your phenotypes are not the same. -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Silly....(Original post by whyumadtho)
Let me try again:
If person A and person B are different 'races' because they have, and I quote, different "skin [colours], face [structures] and body [types]", and you and your father have different "skin [colours]*, face [structures] and body [types]", why are you and your father not different 'races'?
*You have had different exposures to the environment so your phenotypes are not the same.
Comparing age differences is not the same as race.Last edited by democracyforum; 08-08-2012 at 17:58. -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?You could take it to the genetic level to determine it , visual appearance is usually the main way though.
If race did not exist, it would be possible for two whites to produce a black child - because it would just be random.Last edited by democracyforum; 08-08-2012 at 18:16. -
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Re: Are 'native' Irish and British the same race?Why are you backtracking?
Do you and your father have different skin colours? Yes.
Do you and your father have different face structures? Yes.
Do you and your father have different body types? Yes.
Therefore, according to you, you are different 'races'.
What a stupid comment.You could take it to the genetic level to determine it , visual appearance is usually the main way though.
If race did not exist, it would be possible for two whites to produce a black child - because it would just be random.
