[rumbles_ubamba]

Hi

I am an American/Swede (Dual Citizenship) about to enter my junior year in high school and would like to apply to St. Andrews in the fall of next year, preferably to the IR department. I go to one of the best public high schools in the USA and have a GPA of 3.7 with all Honours and one AP classes ( which i scored a 5 on). I also have taken one subject test (world history) and scored a 640.
Next year I am taking 4 APs and hopefully can get 4 or 5s on them and do better than the required 1950 on the SAT and 28 on the ACT. I also need to score better than 700 (according to the website) on a SAT subject test.
I am part of the school rotary club and have logged 60 hours so far and play football (soccer) for the school as well as play the baritone in the band.

First of all, what are my chances of getting in if I follow this plan, along with my other qualifications? I realize the IR department is among the most popular in the UK but I really want to go to uni in Scotland/UK.

While I hear that international students have an easier time getting in, would it be better for me to apply as a Swede or an American? Does being in the EU make Swedes have to pay less or something?
Also, what are some other schools similar to St. Andrews in the Uk with a good IR/Human Geography departments?

Thank you

Rumbles

[dragon500uk]

No one here is in admissions.

Also as for how much you pay, as far as I know its based on where you live, not what ever nationality you choose to be to suit your interests.

You have a good chance if you dont just rely on grades, St Andrews looks for more than just a good report card.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by rumbles_ubamba)
Hi

I am an American/Swede (Dual Citizenship) about to enter my junior year in high school and would like to apply to St. Andrews in the fall of next year, preferably to the IR department. I go to one of the best public high schools in the USA and have a GPA of 3.7 with all Honours and one AP classes ( which i scored a 5 on). I also have taken one subject test (world history) and scored a 640.
Next year I am taking 4 APs and hopefully can get 4 or 5s on them and do better than the required 1950 on the SAT and 28 on the ACT. I also need to score better than 700 (according to the website) on a SAT subject test.
I am part of the school rotary club and have logged 60 hours so far and play football (soccer) for the school as well as play the baritone in the band.

First of all, what are my chances of getting in if I follow this plan, along with my other qualifications? I realize the IR department is among the most popular in the UK but I really want to go to uni in Scotland/UK.

While I hear that international students have an easier time getting in, would it be better for me to apply as a Swede or an American? Does being in the EU make Swedes have to pay less or something?
Also, what are some other schools similar to St. Andrews in the Uk with a good IR/Human Geography departments?

Thank you

Rumbles

We wouldn't know your chances exactly, all you can do is get the best you can and write a very good personal statement, you got to convince them your an ideal candidate.

If your from the EU than they charge you the same as the people living in Scotland so it'll be much cheaper.
But as your in the USA and been studying there, doesn't mean you'll pay less, there are conditions...........such as a British person if they haven't lived in the UK for 3 or more years, they have to pay international fees. Look it up on their site.

Oxbridge, Durham, maybe UCL and SOAS, Bath, Bristol, Warwick more IR maybe, LSE.........................you should look up their entry requirements or email about them

[Oxy]

You will pay international fees because your residence is the US currently. If it were Sweden then it would be free due to a loophole in European law (ludicrous!). But saying that, internationals do have it easier when it comes to admissions (imo) because you're paying so much more than the rest of us. I also have dual-citizenship but because I had spent the last 5+ years in the UK I was treated as a RUK applicant.

[monkyvirus]

I would think something like IR would have a LOT of emphasis on personal statement as it's so competitive.

[rumbles_ubamba]

Hey guys so it is getting closer for me to decide which schools in the UK to apply to. I am looking to go the open day in March to help see the campus and get a feel for the place. I also will visit the University of Edinburgh and a few other schools that i need to decide on. Does anyone know how important St. Andrews regards SAT scores? I already took it and didnt do so well and i know they require at least a 1950.

Thanks

[cbredear]

(Original post by rumbles_ubamba)
Hey guys so it is getting closer for me to decide which schools in the UK to apply to. I am looking to go the open day in March to help see the campus and get a feel for the place. I also will visit the University of Edinburgh and a few other schools that i need to decide on. Does anyone know how important St. Andrews regards SAT scores? I already took it and didnt do so well and i know they require at least a 1950.

Thanks

Do you have something to counteract your lower SAT scores like APs, SAT IIs, high GPA, etc.? The St. A's site (http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/admissio...ualifications/) for US applicants (not sure where you are from) says:

"In addition to the entry requirements stated below, applicants must possess the Faculty Entrance Requirements relevant to the degree subject. Applicants should have studied a college preparatory curriculum (honours and AP classes where available).
We require 3.6+ GPA on a 4.0 scale, with an A-/B+ average in academic subjects.

Applicants should have taken at least one of the following [I added the emphasis] standardised tests:-

•SAT I: around 1950+ across the three elements
•SAT subject tests: scores of 600+. 700+ should be attained in all prerequisite subjects
•AP: Scores of 4 or 5. We use these for admissions purposes only - no credits/exemptions are awarded
•ACT: combined score of 28+
•International Baccalaureate offers tend to be in the 35 – 38 points range"

Seems like they are giving you lots of options to shine. A really strong reference and a stand-out personal statement could also help tip the scales in your favor... Good luck!