[henrygoodman]

How are the law schools of these 2 universities? Which one is better? And also which is more well-known and has greater reputation worldwide? Thx all!~

I'm going for LLB. And also what about lancaster U?

[Sean9001]

Both good law schools with solid reputations. I couldn't distinguish them because they are so similar. Both city unis, cheap, and are supposed to have good social scenes.

If that is the sort of uni experience you're after - apply to both! Increase your chances of getting in somewhere you will love!

[Cristocracy]

Sheffield. It has much better employment prospects. If you look at the Bar council, you would realize Sheffield produces a significant amount of barristers in the country. Also, a look around most city firms' websites would tell you Sheffield grads land more TCs than Newcastle grads

[admbeatmaker]

(Original post by Cristocracy)
Sheffield. It has much better employment prospects. If you look at the Bar council, you would realize Sheffield produces a significant amount of barristers in the country. Also, a look around most city firms' websites would tell you Sheffield grads land more TCs than Newcastle grads

I don't think the difference is as significant as you make it out to be.

For example, Sheffield graduates took home 2.8% of pupillages in the last Bar report compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6%.

Source: http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf (pg 45)

[tehforum]

(Original post by henrygoodman)
How are the law schools of these 2 universities? Which one is better? And also which is more well-known and has greater reputation worldwide? Thx all!~

I'm going for LLB. And also what about lancaster U?

Any different is indiscernible.

Go for the city you will like most.

[Norton1]

(Original post by admbeatmaker)
I don't think the difference is as significant as you make it out to be.

For example, Sheffield graduates took home 2.8% of pupillages in the last Bar report compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6%.

Source: http://cms.barcouncil.org.uk/assets/....01.12_web.pdf (pg 45)

How big is their respective intake? I imagine it's at least comparable?

[henrygoodman]

do you guys have the course module of sheffield? i can't find it on the website

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by henrygoodman)
do you guys have the course module of sheffield? i can't find it on the website

http://www.shef.ac.uk/law/prospectiv...rammestructure

[donald86]

(Original post by Sean9001)
Both good law schools with solid reputations. I couldn't distinguish them because they are so similar. Both city unis, cheap, and are supposed to have good social scenes.

If that is the sort of uni experience you're after - apply to both! Increase your chances of getting in somewhere you will love!

Exactly! Can't really differentiate between the two. Both are really good schools!

[admbeatmaker]

(Original post by Norton1)
How big is their respective intake? I imagine it's at least comparable?

No idea. But what I tried to demonstrate was that they are comparable with no real world difference.

OP should pick the city they prefer.

[Norton1]

(Original post by admbeatmaker)
No idea. But what I tried to demonstrate was that they are comparable with no real world difference.

OP should pick the city they prefer.

If Newcastle take in 100 and Sheffield take in 200 with Sheffield graduates takking home 2.8% of pupillages in the last Bar report compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6% then your chances would be more than twice as good going to Newcastle. That's why I ask. Although of course they probably do have pretty much the same size of intake.

[16dan2life]

Both are respectable but I'd recommend for you to go to the uni you prefer more

[Spyro91]

(Original post by henrygoodman)
How are the law schools of these 2 universities? Which one is better? And also which is more well-known and has greater reputation worldwide? Thx all!~

I'm going for LLB. And also what about lancaster U?

Due to going to Sheffield I'm heavy biased; however, I would say Sheffield. Both are Russell Group Universities and both are city based but unless you prefer Newcastle then I would be inclined to say Sheffield.

Speaking purely from my own experience I've had interviews, vacations schemes and open days at firms such as: Allen & Overy, Freshfields, Slaughter and May, Nabarro, Clyde & Co (well technically BLG at the time) and Government Legal Services and only on the latter two have I met Newcastle students. Now before anyone jumps the gun this is just my experience and I would not argue if a Newcastle student says they went to numerous open days and other events at big law firms and didn't see a single Sheffield graduate but this has being my experience.

I never went to Newcastle so I really don't know what it is like; however, I've found Sheffield to be fantastic. A city that feels like a village, it is small and friendly with plenty of opportunities.

At the end of the day you have to go with where you think you'll have the best time and experience but if you don't have a strong preference already then I would personally recommend Sheffield over Newcastle.

(Original post by Norton1)
If Newcastle take in 100 and Sheffield take in 200 with Sheffield graduates takking home 2.8% of pupillages in the last Bar report compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6% then your chances would be more than twice as good going to Sheffield. That's why I ask. Although of course they probably do have pretty much the same size of intake.

Newcastle takes approx. 170 undergraduates per year, in contrast Sheffield takes between 325-350 per year. Something to bare in mind.

[admbeatmaker]

(Original post by Norton1)
If Newcastle take in 100 and Sheffield take in 200 with Sheffield graduates takking home 2.8% of pupillages in the last Bar report compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6% then your chances would be more than twice as good going to Sheffield. That's why I ask. Although of course they probably do have pretty much the same size of intake.

That doesn't quite make sense.

You're saying that with more law graduates at Sheffield you've got a better chance when you consider they take home 2.8% of pupillages compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6%.

I don't think that's right. I think if you make that kind of comparison, it makes sense that Newcastle is actually better when with far less graduates they do almost equally well at the Bar.

Those are, of course, superficial numbers. But nonetheless your argument didn't make sense.

EDIT: If you consider the poster above me and his statistics, you might be able to say that Newcastle does equally or slightly better in a proportional scale to Sheffield at the Bar.

[Norton1]

(Original post by admbeatmaker)
That doesn't quite make sense.

You're saying that with more law graduates at Sheffield you've got a better chance when you consider they take home 2.8% of pupillages compared to Newcastle taking home 2.6%.

I don't think that's right. I think if you make that kind of comparison, it makes sense that Newcastle is actually better when with far less graduates they do almost equally well at the Bar.

Those are, of course, superficial numbers. But nonetheless your argument didn't make sense.

EDIT: If you consider the poster above me and his statistics, you might be able to say that Newcastle does equally or slightly better in a proportional scale to Sheffield at the Bar.

Yes, my second Sheffield should have been a Newcastle. I have edited it to reflect that. Since Sheffield does appear to take double the number of people but get about the same percentage of pupils then you're better off going to Newcastle from that point of view. No idea what the reason is for Newcastle doing pretty much twice as well, but there it is.

[admbeatmaker]

(Original post by Norton1)
Yes, my second Sheffield should have been a Newcastle. I have edited it to reflect that. Since Sheffield does appear to take double the number of people but get about the same percentage of pupils then you're better off going to Newcastle from that point of view. No idea what the reason is for Newcastle doing pretty much twice as well, but there it is.

Sorry about that, I should have realised that you may have typed it wrong.

On another note. I'm quite pleased that York takes 1.3% of pupillages. That's good when you take into account that at the time of the report there were no law graduates. I should image that number will increase within the next 5 years as the law grads start to filter through.

[henrygoodman]

thank you all for the advice. Frankly I cannot compare the two cities because I am an internatinal student. Can you guys tell me more about them? I see from many ranking tables that Newcastle often tops Sheffield. But it seems sheffield is with more tradition and enjoys greater recognition from many. Is this so?

[Cristocracy]

Ranking tables arnt entirely accurate and will not reflect how employers view the uni. Try looking at offical stats, law firms' websites (check the list of people who recieved TCs) and the law fairs of each uni.

[chalks]

(Original post by Cristocracy)
Sheffield. It has much better employment prospects. If you look at the Bar council, you would realize Sheffield produces a significant amount of barristers in the country. Also, a look around most city firms' websites would tell you Sheffield grads land more TCs than Newcastle grads

Really? As noted above, the most recent stats would indicate that Newcastle and Sheffield grads have secured a similar number of pupillages, although the numbers for Sheffield come from a far larger cohort.

Which City firms' websites are you looking at which demonstrate that Sheffield grads "land more TCs" than Newcastle?

I'm not trying to be difficult, but I do question the validity of your categorical statement that Sheffield has "much better employment prospects".

[Tsunami2011]

(Original post by chalks)
Really? As noted above, the most recent stats would indicate that Newcastle and Sheffield grads have secured a similar number of pupillages, although the numbers for Sheffield come from a far larger cohort.

Which City firms' websites are you looking at which demonstrate that Sheffield grads "land more TCs" than Newcastle?

I'm not trying to be difficult, but I do question the validity of your categorical statement that Sheffield has "much better employment prospects".

TSR is a strange place, especially the law sub-forums. Posters seem to feel the need to stem the flow of insecurity by making crazy claims..(How can someone seriously say with a straight face that Sheffield offers MUCH better employment prospects than Newcastle)

It is somewhat ironic that potential lawyers/law students make such bold claims with not much to support it.

I may well have been guilty of this myself..before someone attacks me..