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    Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    I was looking through my year 12 report given to us in march, and my teacher has written...she got 60% and 59% in her C1 AND S1 modules FOR MATHS. but from my results sheet, it says i got 52% in s1 not 59%?
    im really confused...the numbers given to us on the mark sheet ...is that the actual mark we got for that particular exam, or is that UMS marks?

    please help me! thank you
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    I was looking through my year 12 report given to us in march, and my teacher has written...she got 60% and 59% in her C1 AND S1 modules FOR MATHS. but from my results sheet, it says i got 52% in s1 not 59%?
    im really confused...the numbers given to us on the mark sheet ...is that the actual mark we got for that particular exam, or is that UMS marks?

    please help me! thank you

    The mark you got on your results slip is the UMS mark.
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    The mark you got on your results slip is the UMS mark.
    by the end of AS level results, do they consider your raw marks for giving a total grade or do they add the UMS marks?
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    (Original post by sharon800)
    by the end of AS level results, do they consider your raw marks for giving a total grade or do they add the UMS marks?
    add up UMS marks. The only purpose of raw marks is to assign UMS.
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    (Original post by myyrh)
    add up UMS marks. The only purpose of raw marks is to assign UMS.
    okay, so for my statistics exam, my UMS was 52/100, and the raw marks were 59/100.....so if they are going to calculate the total grade by UMS, does it mean, they will add up the 52% for stats? thats not fair
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    okay, so for my statistics exam, my UMS was 52/100, and the raw marks were 59/100.....so if they are going to calculate the total grade by UMS, does it mean, they will add up the 52% for stats? thats not fair
    This isn't possible, what was your exam out of?
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    This isn't possible, what was your exam out of?
    okay, so we have 3 modules for AS maths
    c1- i got 61/100 UMS marks, and my raw marks were 45/75
    s1- i got 52/100 UMS Marks , and my raw mark was 44/75
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    It is possible. If that exam was "easy" (which is determined by how everyone in the country did) higher grade boundaries will apply and your UMS score may turn out to be lower than your raw percentage.

    It is fair, because the UMS gives a reflection on how you performed compared to the rest of the country, rather than just by yourself. After all, A levels are somewhat a competition between students and only a fixed percentage can be awarded each grade.

    I do hope I've been clear - If I haven't, quote me and I'll try to explain more.
    Last edited by rachaelizabeth; 14-07-2012 at 22:04.
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    (Original post by rachaelizabeth)
    It is possible. If that exam was "easy" (which is determined by how everyone in the country did) higher grade boundaries will apply and your UMS score may turn out to be lower than your raw percentage.

    It is fair, because the UMS gives a reflection on how you performed compared to the rest of the country, rather than just by yourself. After all, A levels are somewhat a competition between students and only a select percentage can achieve each grade.

    I do hope I've been clear - If I haven't, quote me and I'll try to explain more.
    No, it wasn't possible. Read above. sharon800 said, initially, the exam was out of 100 raw marks but it turned out to be 75 raw marks.
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    (Original post by NutterFrutter)
    No, it wasn't possible. Read above. sharon800 said, initially, the exam was out of 100 raw marks but it turned out to be 75 raw marks.
    so what does that mean? :/
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    (Original post by NutterFrutter)
    No, it wasn't possible. Read above. sharon800 said, initially, the exam was out of 100 raw marks but it turned out to be 75 raw marks.

    (Original post by sharon800)
    so what does that mean? :/
    I interpreted it as meaning that sharon800 got 59% raw marks (59/100) raw marks, which does indeed give the 44/75 that they stated above.
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    (Original post by sharon800)
    so what does that mean? :/
    They will add up your UMS scores to award your final grade. The only thing that your raw mark of 59% did was determine the UMS score of 52/100 that you got. The conversion ratio changes for each exam series depending on how the entire country has performed.

    What you should do now is ignore the raw percentage and just look at the UMS scores, as they are the ones that add up to give your final grade.

    It works the same way for everyone in the country and it is a very fair system, but it can be difficult to understand.
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    (Original post by rachaelizabeth)
    They will add up your UMS scores to award your final grade. The only thing that your raw mark of 59% did was determine the UMS score of 52/100 that you got. The conversion ratio changes for each exam series depending on how the entire country has performed.

    What you should do now is ignore the raw percentage and just look at the UMS scores, as they are the ones that add up to give your final grade.

    It works the same way for everyone in the country and it is a very fair system, but it can be difficult to understand.
    Thank you for your time and help
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    Thank you for your time and help
    That's no problem - any time. I hope that it's a little more clear to you now.
    If you become confused with any of your other results, don't hesitate to PM me and I will do my best to help.
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
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    That's no problem - any time. I hope that it's a little more clear to you now.
    If you become confused with any of your other results, don't hesitate to PM me and I will do my best to help.
    sorry, i have one other question. suppose i come out with a grade D at AS Level for maths, would universities still accept me? I want to tsudy pharmacy at university...and the universities im looking at offer grades from BBB-AAB.
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    sorry, i have one other question. suppose i come out with a grade D at AS Level for maths, would universities still accept me? I want to tsudy pharmacy at university...and the universities im looking at offer grades from BBB-AAB.
    providing you have 3 other A levels and meet subject requirements (e.g. if they ask for 2 sciences) then it won't affect your application, unless they look for a certain grade at AS level other than a pass.
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    sorry, i have one other question. suppose i come out with a grade D at AS Level for maths, would universities still accept me? I want to tsudy pharmacy at university...and the universities im looking at offer grades from BBB-AAB.
    Unless the university specifies a grade requirement in the dropped fourth AS subject (e.g. AABb-AABc) it shouldn't matter.
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by Helloworld_95)
    providing you have 3 other A levels and meet subject requirements (e.g. if they ask for 2 sciences) then it won't affect your application, unless they look for a certain grade at AS level other than a pass.
    well, the universities don't really require certain subjects at certain grades at AS level. I have been doing only 3 a levels - maths, chemistry and sociology. For pharmacy, their entry requirements suggest candidates need to have 2 sciences ( apparently maths counts as a science) so that good, but would the grade D at AS Level mathematics defer my entry into universities? the universities im looking at offer from AAB- BBB
    so im a little worried...
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
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    Unless the university specifies a grade requirement in the dropped fourth AS subject (e.g. AABb-AABc) it shouldn't matter.
    i only do 3 A levels- maths, chemistry and sociology...i cant drop any. Would teh universities still accept me, considering i get a D at AS Level maths :/
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    Re: Please help me! im really confused by my march 2012 AS report!
    (Original post by sharon800)
    i only do 3 A levels- maths, chemistry and sociology...i cant drop any. Would teh universities still accept me, considering i get a D at AS Level maths :/
    They wont accept you unless you meet the requirements so you would have to get that A or B in Maths A level since you're only doing three subjects.
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