B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012

TSR's model parliament.

Announcements Posted on
Ask me ANYTHING - Andrew O'Neill - Buzzcocks comedian, amateur occultist, veggie... 22-05-2013
Sign in to Reply
  1. Metrobeans's Avatar
    • TSR Idol
    • Location: London
    • Posts: 9,551
    B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012, TSR Government





    Information of Healthcare Act 2012


    The Act will ensure that patients have been reliably informed of all options available for their healthcare.


    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-


    1. Recommendation of private healthcare to patient
    (1) It will become compulsory for any healthcare professional to recommend private healthcare to any patient who may not receive a certain treatment through the use of the NHS without the patient asking to receive such information.
    (2) It will become compulsory for any healthcare professional to inform a patient that they may receive treatment quicker through the use of private health service rather than the NHS.


    2. Enforcement and Punishment
    (1) The enforcement of this Act should be the sole responsibility of the NHS trust management boards of the UK.


    3. Commencement
    (1) This Act may be cited as the Information of healthcare etc Act 2012
    (2) This bill shall extend to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; and
    (3) Shall come into force on 1st January 2013 following Royal Assent.


    4. For the purposes of this Act:
    (1) "Healthcare professional" refers to any person that is a supplementary prescriber.
  2. SciFiRory's Avatar
    • so damn easy to cave in, man kills everything
    • Location: Bath/Bristol
    • Posts: 11,379
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    no.
  3. tehFrance's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: Londres
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by SciFiRory)
    no.
    And why not? if it isn't offered on the NHS then patients have a right to know they can go privately.

    That said my GP has always done this and I don't see the need for it... in fact he did it two days ago when I asked about something that came about due to a previous NHS operation... **** says I have to go private
  4. internetguru's Avatar
    • Banned
    • Posts: 3,453
    • Warning points: 1000
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by tehFrance)
    And why not? if it isn't offered on the NHS then patients have a right to know they can go privately.

    That said my GP has always done this and I don't see the need for it... in fact he did it two days ago when I asked about something that came about due to a previous NHS operation... **** says I have to go private
    French NHS?
  5. tehFrance's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: Londres
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by internetguru)
    French NHS?
    No the British NHS.
  6. tufc's Avatar
    • Vengeful, Imperial Overlord of The Student Room
    • Posts: 3,854
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    Aye.
  7. Observatory's Avatar
    • Exalted and Worshipped Member
    • Posts: 1,046
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    This is quite sensible, although "make aware of" is maybe better than "recommend". The NHS has a cost:benefit cut-off that is often lower than individuals', and it doesn't harm anyone else for people to receive additional treatment they're willing to pay for. The problem is people are not experts on healthcare so they usually don't know these opportunities exist.

    However I'm not a fan of the poor grammar in the title.
  8. Endless Blue's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,966
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by internetguru)
    What are you doing using our health service do you live here or something? I knew we should have blocked the borders and banned dual nationalities you would sell our country out in second you French/mossad agent.
    :rofl:

    Not actually sure if he's joking though
  9. RoryS's Avatar
    • Community Assistant
    • Deputy Secretary General of the Model UN
    • Location: South London
    • Posts: 2,602
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    No. Everyone should use the NHS which is a great institution. Patients should be able to make their own decisions about whether they use private healthcare or not.
  10. tehFrance's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: Londres
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by RoryS)
    No. Everyone should use the NHS which is a great institution. Patients should be able to make their own decisions about whether they use private healthcare or not.
    I don't think you understood the whole idea of the bill. If something is not offered by the NHS for example, does the doctor not have the duty to tell the patient that they can have it done privately or if it is quicker to get it done privately if they so wished to pursue that route?

    I think denying the patient the right to choose is a disgrace.
  11. barnetlad's Avatar
    • Vengeful, Imperial Overlord of The Student Room
    • Location: Barnet
    • Posts: 4,507
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    Self regulation? No penalties. You wouldn't expect the local council to tell you next door council service is better (for example Barnet Council telling you that the cycle facilities in Camden are better) or Ryanair to tell you that BA's pricing and booking has less hidden charges.
  12. Birchington's Avatar
    • Community Assistant
    • Wiki Support Team
    • Secretary General of the Model UN
    • Location: Leicester
    • Posts: 5,205
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    I agree with this if patients also receive advice on the potential cost of going private. The NHS should assist low-income patients to receive care that's only offered privately.

    I do agree that some areas of NHS provision, such as gastric bands and some aspects of cosmetic surgery, should be transferred to the private sector.
  13. Observatory's Avatar
    • Exalted and Worshipped Member
    • Posts: 1,046
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by Birchington)
    The NHS should assist low-income patients to receive care that's only offered privately.
    That defeats the object, since this is about treatment that the NHS considers to be outside its acceptable cost:benefit range.
  14. MacDaddi's Avatar
    • Overlord in Training
    • Location: Cheshire
    • Posts: 3,330
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    I don't think cramming private treatment down the throats of patients is a sensible idea, especially ones who may not be able to afford the treatment when more often than not they can receive pretty decent treatment on the NHS
  15. tehFrance's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: Londres
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by Birchington)
    The NHS should assist low-income patients to receive care that's only offered privately.
    No, non, nein, нет!

    It is bad enough that poor people share my healthcare, why should I then pay for them to go private? I'd refuse to pay my taxes then.
  16. Rakas21's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: West Yorkshire
    • Posts: 11,801
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by Birchington)
    I agree with this if patients also receive advice on the potential cost of going private. The NHS should assist low-income patients to receive care that's only offered privately.

    I do agree that some areas of NHS provision, such as gastric bands and some aspects of cosmetic surgery, should be transferred to the private sector.
    The logical outcome of this bill is that private companies will provide detailed information to attract the patient, this includes cost.

    Depending on the type of service it could be an idea however i shall allow the Secretary Of State For Health to answer this point in more detail, though the government will certainly not be funding unnecessary services.

    Indeed, i also support extending this to operations for cultural and religious reasons.
  17. thunder_chunky's Avatar
    • And all the roads we have to walk are winding
    • Location: Eternia
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    I can see the logic of this. People should know all the options even those that are avaliable with private healthcare and not on the NHS. Then again if said person is told and then realises they can't get private healthcare for one reason or another that's another issue.
  18. JPKC's Avatar
    • Vengeful, Imperial Overlord of The Student Room
    • Posts: 3,772
    I reckon this would amount to taunting in most circumstances, even if intended as help. "Oh, you could have the cancer removed tomorrow but only if you have £67,000!"

    Most people can't afford private healthcare, and this would just add to the non-healthcare jobs expected of medical practitioners, of which there are already too many.


    This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App
  19. tehFrance's Avatar
    • TSR Legend
    • Location: Londres
    Re: B476 - Information Of Healthcare Bill 2012
    (Original post by JPKC)
    I reckon this would amount to taunting in most circumstances, even if intended as help. "Oh, you could have the cancer removed tomorrow but only if you have £67,000!"

    Most people can't afford private healthcare, and this would just add to the non-healthcare jobs.
    Oh you are very optimistic of how much it costs to treat cancer.

    How is this non-healthcare?
  20. JPKC's Avatar
    • Vengeful, Imperial Overlord of The Student Room
    • Posts: 3,772
    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Oh you are very optimistic of how much it costs to treat cancer.
    I don't actually know, I'll admit that. I'm willing to guess that it's far beyond the means of most people.

    How is this non-healthcare?
    Telling people that they could get treatment elsewhere doesn't really count as treating them!




    This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App
Sign in to Reply
Share this discussion:  
Article updates
Moderators

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 volunteers looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Reputation gems:
The Reputation gems seen here indicate how well reputed the user is, red gem indicate negative reputation and green indicates a good rep.
Post rating score:
These scores show if a post has been positively or negatively rated by our members.