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  1. jack.hadamard's Avatar
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    (Original post by nuodai)
    I think this problem is quite contrived for the purposes of setting a STEP question, but it's not completely useless.
    I am not convinced Euler knew about STEP at the time.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    (Original post by jack.hadamard)
    I am not convinced Euler knew about STEP at the time.
    You'd be surprised...
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    This question isn't from the siklos booklet, but I see no point in adding another thread.
    I checked the solution to STEP2 1996 Q8 by speleo: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...51#post8025151
    and I can't follow how he guesses what g(x)/h(x) is. And he mentions "aux quadratic" twice and i can't understand what it means.

    To make more clearer,
    If h(x) = kx, then h(x) = -2x.
    So h(x) = Ae^x + Be^-x -2x.

    I understand where the first line comes from, and that we get a contradiction, but can't follow how he got to the second line straight away.

    Also, when he writes something like this:

    g(x) = Acosx + Bsinx + ...
    g(x) = pcos2x

    I can't follow how he jumps from one to another.

    pcos2x doesn't work, because it doesn't satisfy specific values of g(x), but as far as I see, the idea that g(x)=Acosx-2cos2x is the result of a guess, not an analytical approach.

    And the last question how would we know that there is a UNIQUE function g(x)/h(x)?
    Last edited by Dog4444; 01-08-2012 at 23:48.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    (Original post by Dog4444)
    This question isn't from the siklos booklet, but I see no point in adding another thread.
    I checked the solution to STEP2 1996 Q8 by speleo: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...51#post8025151
    and I can't follow how he guesses what g(x)/h(x) is. And he mentions "aux quadratic" twice and i can't understand what it means.

    To make more clearer,
    If h(x) = kx, then h(x) = -2x.
    So h(x) = Ae^x + Be^-x -2x.

    I understand where the first line comes from, and that we get a contradiction, but can't follow how he got to the second line straight away.

    Also, when he writes something like this:

    g(x) = Acosx + Bsinx + ...
    g(x) = pcos2x

    I can't follow how he jumps from one to another.

    pcos2x doesn't work, because it doesn't satisfy specific values of g(x), but as far as I see, the idea that g(x)=Acosx-2cos2x is the result of a guess, not an analytical approach.

    And the last question how would we know that there is a UNIQUE function g(x)/h(x)?
    Do you have the question nearby?
    Edit-and a quick look at his solution suggests Aux Quadratic means auxiliary quadratic (a term used in solving 2nd order ODEs-it's possible you refer to it as something different?).
    Last edited by Slumpy; 01-08-2012 at 23:50.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    (Original post by Slumpy)
    Do you have the question nearby?
    Edit-and a quick look at his solution suggests Aux Quadratic means auxiliary quadratic (a term used in solving 2nd order ODEs-it's possible you refer to it as something different?).


    I don't know. I've never see 2nd order ODE before.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
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    I don't know. I've never see 2nd order ODE before.
    Right...it may be worth doing a bit of work on 2nd order ODEs before trying to do STEP questions on them. The question in question (fabulous turn of phrase if I do say so myself...) doesn't look too bad, but if you've never done 2nd order ODEs, it won't be the best place to start!
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
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    Right...it may be worth doing a bit of work on 2nd order ODEs before trying to do STEP questions on them. The question in question (fabulous turn of phrase if I do say so myself...) doesn't look too bad, but if you've never done 2nd order ODEs, it won't be the best place to start!
    There was a syllabus change in 1994, and 2nd order ODE are not in A-level (non-further) syllabus. So, it's quite weird. I guess, it's a good idea to know it, anyway.
    Last edited by Dog4444; 02-08-2012 at 00:06.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    (Original post by Dog4444)
    There was a syllabus change in 1994, and 2nd order ODE are not in A-level (non-further) syllabus. So, it's quite weird. I guess, it's a good idea to know it, anyway.
    Ah. I didn't do A levels so didn't do that. I'd say if you want to do STEP, it's very much worth doing FM (although I was under the impression that STEP I and II had the syllabus of just a single A level), and definitely learn ODEs, just because they're great anyways.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    Another one:



    I did manage to get the whole thing, but did the second part by manipulating with all these brackets.

    Can't follow this:



    I don't understand where that b come from and as the result I can't follow what Siklos did afterwards.
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    Re: Question from Siklos Booklet
    He is defining b_n to be the nth term of the original series. (i.e. b_n = \dfrac{2n-1}{n(n+1)(n+2)}).

    [Disclaimer: haven't actually done any calculation; it's possible there's an off-by-one in what I wrote].
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