[Voltozonic]

Does anybody know if you can transfer onto straight Physics BSc or MPhys upon successful completion of the foundation year ? From what I can see all over the website and in prospectuses it only seems to be Physics and Astronomy.

Thanks.

[Origami Bullets]

I'm pretty sure you can do straight physics - I know someone who has just finished the foundation year and is going on to do physics next year, and he's never mentioned astronomy.

[dknt]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Does anybody know if you can transfer onto straight Physics BSc or MPhys upon successful completion of the foundation year ? From what I can see all over the website and in prospectuses it only seems to be Physics and Astronomy.

Thanks.

The School itself is the School of Physics and Astronomy; after completion of the year, with sufficient percentage, you can progress to any course offered by the school.

[dj1015]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Does anybody know if you can transfer onto straight Physics BSc or MPhys upon successful completion of the foundation year ? From what I can see all over the website and in prospectuses it only seems to be Physics and Astronomy.

Thanks.

Why dont you contact the school instead of asking on an random internet forum........

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by Origami Bullets)
I'm pretty sure you can do straight physics - I know someone who has just finished the foundation year and is going on to do physics next year, and he's never mentioned astronomy.

Sounds promising, thanks for the reply!

(Original post by dknt)
The School itself is the School of Physics and Astronomy; after completion of the year, with sufficient percentage, you can progress to any course offered by the school.

Yeah I assumed thats what it was. Makes sense - Thanks for giving me some peace of mind!

(Original post by dj1015)
Why dont you contact the school instead of asking on an random internet forum........

Why don't you stop wasting peoples time if you're going to be absolutely useless? If it'll help you to sleep at night, I have contacted the school, but because it was the weekend I'm not expecting a reply untill later this week.

[sjcxxx]

Yes, you can. I know this because I was there yesterday, and the director of the foundation programme told me.

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by sjcxxx)
Yes, you can. I know this because I was there yesterday, and the director of the foundation programme told me.

Thanks for the response. I recently got a reply from the school and they confirmed this too.

[bilgin_143]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Does anybody know if you can transfer onto straight Physics BSc or MPhys upon successful completion of the foundation year ? From what I can see all over the website and in prospectuses it only seems to be Physics and Astronomy.

Thanks.

I studied engineering (mechanical) with an integrated foundation year last year and I can help you with that cuz the science course is joint to the engineering one.

Basically, you are assigned modules regarding your degree. (On maths, and physics, comm skills, IT and a project, 6 each semester). There are certain superunits formed with the combination of the 3 of these, and you have a total of 4 super units. As long as you pass 2 of the 3 units in a super unit (the one you failed shouldn't be below 30), and have an overall average of 70 percent and at least 70 percent in all units (in the case of physics) you get straight into your MPhys. You don't reapply or anything, the process is done by your school, it's like normally passing to the next year.

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by bilgin_143)
I studied engineering (mechanical) with an integrated foundation year last year and I can help you with that cuz the science course is joint to the engineering one.

Basically, you are assigned modules regarding your degree. (On maths, and physics, comm skills, IT and a project, 6 each semester). There are certain superunits formed with the combination of the 3 of these, and you have a total of 4 super units. As long as you pass 2 of the 3 units in a super unit (the one you failed shouldn't be below 30), and have an overall average of 70 percent and at least 70 percent in all units (in the case of physics) you get straight into your MPhys. You don't reapply or anything, the process is done by your school, it's like normally passing to the next year.

Thanks for the response. I think they've raised it for Physics this year, I've just read through a link the Uni sent me and for Physics you need 75% in Super Units 1,2,3 and 70% in Unit 4.

Did you know alot of people who were going for Physics ? Because it seems like a fairly steep mark to progress on and im just wondering how many people don't reach it.

How did you get on afterwards ?

[bilgin_143]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Thanks for the response. I think they've raised it for Physics this year, I've just read through a link the Uni sent me and for Physics you need 75% in Super Units 1,2,3 and 70% in Unit 4.

Did you know alot of people who were going for Physics ? Because it seems like a fairly steep mark to progress on and im just wondering how many people don't reach it.

How did you get on afterwards ?

I did not work AT ALL (save the week before the exams and the day before the assignments ), went clubbing every 2-3 nights, went to lectures 3 days a week (just like everyone else) and I still got 88%, being in probably in the top 5 (would have been 2nd if I was given more than 57% for my project) of FY (most people get stuck between 80-70 %).. Most people don't struggle. Have a look at: http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/se...foundation.php If you are familiar with the stuff in there, you wont have any problems, if you are not, then you might have to study. The first week, I know that Claire Nedwell will talk to you as she did to us saying " Foundation year is very selective, and you need to work really hard bla bla bla..." but that turned out not to be the case for most us. I don't know about anyone who failed to get in physics, and there were only 10-15 people out of 270 who failed to pass the foundation year..

Physics though, is raising it's entry criteria for A*A*A- A*A*A* for normal entry in 2013, so expect it to be hard once you get in your school, and enjoy foundation year, as you might not get such an amazing student life in your actual degree.

Wish you every success

[Oh my Ms. Coffey]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Thanks for the response. I think they've raised it for Physics this year, I've just read through a link the Uni sent me and for Physics you need 75% in Super Units 1,2,3 and 70% in Unit 4.

Did you know alot of people who were going for Physics ? Because it seems like a fairly steep mark to progress on and im just wondering how many people don't reach it.

How did you get on afterwards ?

Well they do want A*A*A for physics so of course this will be reflected by the required progression criteria.

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by bilgin_143)
I did not work AT ALL (save the week before the exams and the day before the assignments ), went clubbing every 2-3 nights, went to lectures 3 days a week (just like everyone else) and I still got 88%, being in probably in the top 5 (would have been 2nd if I was given more than 57% for my project) of FY (most people get stuck between 80-70 %).. Most people don't struggle. Have a look at: http://www.maths.manchester.ac.uk/se...foundation.php If you are familiar with the stuff in there, you wont have any problems, if you are not, then you might have to study. The first week, I know that Claire Nedwell will talk to you as she did to us saying " Foundation year is very selective, and you need to work really hard bla bla bla..." but that turned out not to be the case for most us. I don't know about anyone who failed to get in physics, and there were only 10-15 people out of 270 who failed to pass the foundation year..

Physics though, is raising it's entry criteria for A*A*A*A*A for normal entry in 2013, so expect it to be hard once you get in your school, and enjoy foundation year, as you might not get such an amazing student life in your actual degree.

Wish you every success

Well done! Thats pretty encouraging I guess.

Funnily enough, I actually did first year Mechanical Engineering at Manchester in 2010, but the course wasn't for me (so yeah If you have any questions lol). So I had a year out at the end of it, and now find myself on the foundation year for Physics because its so popular at Manchester and my A-Levels aren't even close to what they want.

The School of Maths though require 70% this year which is slightly less. I wonder if people fall short in Physics, do they let them change ?

(Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
Well they do want A*A*A for physics so of course this will be reflected by the required progression criteria.

Of course it will. Thank you for stepping in with that.

[Oh my Ms. Coffey]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
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Manchester wanted me to get 80% in all my physics/maths modules and 75% overall when I applied using a foundation year from another university at least anyway.

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by Oh my Ms. Coffey)
Manchester wanted me to get 80% in all my physics/maths modules and 75% overall when I applied using a foundation year from another university at least anyway.

Sounds similar, I think Manchester asks pretty much 75% for everything for progression this year.

Thing is I got ABB in Maths, Physics and Chem at A-Level from 2010, and went to Manchester for the first year of a Mech Eng degree and passed that. I just wasn't allowed to swap to Physics because it was such a high demand course and didn't want to continue with Eng. So I guess im a slight advantage to the average foundation year student, but 75% still sounds scary lol.

Did you transfer to Physics at Manchester then ?

[Oh my Ms. Coffey]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Sounds similar, I think Manchester asks pretty much 75% for everything for progression this year.

Thing is I got ABB in Maths, Physics and Chem at A-Level from 2010, and went to Manchester for the first year of a Mech Eng degree and passed that. I just wasn't allowed to swap to Physics because it was such a high demand course and didn't want to continue with Eng. So I guess im a slight advantage to the average foundation year student, but 75% still sounds scary lol.

Did you transfer to Physics at Manchester then ?

To be honest, I didnt realise Manchester did a foundation year when I applied for foundation years and ended up going to Loughborough.

Ah, I saw a few people who did a similar thing on my course. There were people from a range of academic backgrounds. I was more shocked at the people with good A-levels doing not as well as they should have.

I rejected Manchester in the end for Durham, Manchesters course looked much better however.

[bilgin_143]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
Well done! Thats pretty encouraging I guess.

Funnily enough, I actually did first year Mechanical Engineering at Manchester in 2010, but the course wasn't for me (so yeah If you have any questions lol). So I had a year out at the end of it, and now find myself on the foundation year for Physics because its so popular at Manchester and my A-Levels aren't even close to what they want.

The School of Maths though require 70% this year which is slightly less. I wonder if people fall short in Physics, do they let them change ?

Of course it will. Thank you for stepping in with that.

really?? Why did you drop out then? Are the lecturers as terrible as mentioned in some other threads in TSR? Were your advisers helpful or were they bad as well? What were the big pros and cons of the course? And finally what do you think about the course structure, do we get some random useless modules? Hopefully thats not too many questions for you to answer

you have to look at the modules, if they are the same, they will probably help you in changing majors at the end of the year, other than that, you might as well ask to change your major at the beginning of the year.. But at the end of the year they might have filled up all the places and they may not allow your progression to the maths course. I personally don't think there is any reason for you to fail, given that you already did some engineering maths..

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by bilgin_143)
really?? Why did you drop out then? Are the lecturers as terrible as mentioned in some other threads in TSR? Were your advisers helpful or were they bad as well? What were the big pros and cons of the course? And finally what do you think about the course structure, do we get some random useless modules? Hopefully thats not too many questions for you to answer

you have to look at the modules, if they are the same, they will probably help you in changing majors at the end of the year, other than that, you might as well ask to change your major at the beginning of the year.. But at the end of the year they might have filled up all the places and they may not allow your progression to the maths course. I personally don't think there is any reason for you to fail, given that you already did some engineering maths..

There was a few reasons why I left both at University and stuff back at home with the family. Ultimately, I just I didn't want to be an Engineer and lost interest. I wanted to study something like Physics or Maths, but when you apply to University for the first time alot of people make out if you don't do something vocational then there's no point going and I thought Engineering was a good compromise to get vocational, Physics and Maths into one degree.

Some lecturers were great, others were not. I guess that's the same with any degree. We had a Mechanical Materials module in the second semester and the lecturer was a lady (I forget her name) but she was awesome.

My adviser was useless, we used to go and sit in his room for about 10 minutes in total silence before he told us to go. Everytime I had the feeling he forgot about it as he'd turn up slightly late, however other advisers I've been told about sound quite good.

Pros and Cons - Its kind of hard because its different for everyone. There's alot of foreign students on the course. I'm not a racist, but I always ended up in a lab group with 5 other Japanese people and they'd speak in Japanese the entire time. In a lecture theatre of 300 people there was like 6 girls. There were two modules which all students seemed to have a problem with, Solids and Structures and Circuit Analysis. We had this very annoying high pitched lady teach Solids and Structures and she just spoke utter jibberish, noone understood the Maths she was going through and then she'd set us coursework pieces which were 3% of the course unit grade and were like 100 questions of impossible problems. Most people didn't hand it in because it simply wasn't worth it.

Like I said it wasn't for me but I've got mates who are going into third year now and they think its fine. Just different for everyone I guess.

Thanks for your info on the foundation year. Just hope I obtain 75%!

[bilgin_143]

(Original post by Voltozonic)
There was a few reasons why I left both at University and stuff back at home with the family. Ultimately, I just I didn't want to be an Engineer and lost interest. I wanted to study something like Physics or Maths, but when you apply to University for the first time alot of people make out if you don't do something vocational then there's no point going and I thought Engineering was a good compromise to get vocational, Physics and Maths into one degree.

Some lecturers were great, others were not. I guess that's the same with any degree. We had a Mechanical Materials module in the second semester and the lecturer was a lady (I forget her name) but she was awesome.

My adviser was useless, we used to go and sit in his room for about 10 minutes in total silence before he told us to go. Everytime I had the feeling he forgot about it as he'd turn up slightly late, however other advisers I've been told about sound quite good.

Pros and Cons - Its kind of hard because its different for everyone. There's alot of foreign students on the course. I'm not a racist, but I always ended up in a lab group with 5 other Japanese people and they'd speak in Japanese the entire time. In a lecture theatre of 300 people there was like 6 girls. There were two modules which all students seemed to have a problem with, Solids and Structures and Circuit Analysis. We had this very annoying high pitched lady teach Solids and Structures and she just spoke utter jibberish, noone understood the Maths she was going through and then she'd set us coursework pieces which were 3% of the course unit grade and were like 100 questions of impossible problems. Most people didn't hand it in because it simply wasn't worth it.

Like I said it wasn't for me but I've got mates who are going into third year now and they think its fine. Just different for everyone I guess.

Thanks for your info on the foundation year. Just hope I obtain 75%!

Thank you very much for your reply.. I will keep an eye on those two units, and will try to study in advance. I was wondering if we had the possibility of changing advisers if I was to end up with a bad one, because I think they will be crucial for my career decisions and everything.. (I know some of them are brilliant, my mate from chemistry ended up with this german quantum chemistry demi-god, who wrote over 50 books and who is known worldwide etc., and basically the guy made him receive a BP scholarship,along with an internship and the possibility of securing employment by the end of next yr)

If you have more questions please fell free to ask. And if you want to contact other people from foundation year or the academic staff, they are all in the facebook group, and they answer your questions quickly: http://www.facebook.com/groups/uomfoundation2011.12/

[Voltozonic]

(Original post by bilgin_143)
Thank you very much for your reply.. I will keep an eye on those two units, and will try to study in advance. I was wondering if we had the possibility of changing advisers if I was to end up with a bad one, because I think they will be crucial for my career decisions and everything.. (I know some of them are brilliant, my mate from chemistry ended up with this german quantum chemistry demi-god, who wrote over 50 books and who is known worldwide etc., and basically the guy made him receive a BP scholarship,along with an internship and the possibility of securing employment by the end of next yr)

If you have more questions please fell free to ask. And if you want to contact other people from foundation year or the academic staff, they are all in the facebook group, and they answer your questions quickly: http://www.facebook.com/groups/uomfoundation2011.12/

Well its your education and you're paying big bucks for it. If you're not happy with your adviser then demand a new one. I guess its luck of the draw. There's a Thermodynamics lecturer called Dr.Prosser who is one of the advisors and he sounds similar. He's written books published for the University and stuff and he is a god in Thermo and Maths. You'll probably have him for Thermo next year he gives you this organised little blue book on Thermo at the start of the semester and its all of the semesters notes, you just bring it with you. He doesn't take any **** either if you talk or your mobile goes off in a lecture haha - He will humiliate you and shout at you to get out, but its kind of fair enough.

Cheers for the link, i'll check it out. If you need any other questions answers just give me a shout.