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1. A2 Further maths in a year?
I've done my AS exams for maths, physics and business. Very confident in maths, fairly sure I'll get a B in physics and because business is so unreliable I genuinely don't know what I'll get.

I've already started Further; D1 is almost finished, I'm going to do FP1 over the holidays and then D2 when we come back. This will be an AS and I hope to sit them all in January.

After January, is it possible for me to do another three modules, like FP1, S1 and S2, before summer? All on my own

I know you need C3 and C4 for FP3, but I'll be able to cope with that (I'll just look ahead). Are there any other sort of rules I need to know about? For example, to get an A* in maths you need an average of 90% in C3 and C4 and then an A overall.

Note: I do all the Cores, M1 and M2 in lessons. I'll be doing all of Further independently (which is another reason I'm doing it because I'll have proven that quality to unis). But of course I can ask for help.

EDIT: Can I put something like S2 and D2 with the Cores to get an A2, and then use all the 1s in Further?
Last edited by MrBlueMo0n; 15-07-2012 at 08:43. Reason: Extra little question
2. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
I've done my AS exams for maths, physics and business. Very confident in maths, fairly sure I'll get a B in physics and because business is so unreliable I genuinely don't know what I'll get.

I've already started Further; D1 is almost finished, I'm going to do FP1 over the holidays and then D2 when we come back. This will be an AS and I hope to sit them all in January.

After January, is it possible for me to do another three modules, like FP1, S1 and S2, before summer? All on my own

I know you need C3 and C4 for FP3, but I'll be able to cope with that (I'll just look ahead). Are there any other sort of rules I need to know about? For example, to get an A* in maths you need an average of 90% in C3 and C4 and then an A overall.

Note: I do all the Cores, M1 and M2 in lessons. I'll be doing all of Further independently (which is another reason I'm doing it because I'll have proven that quality to unis). But of course I can ask for help.

EDIT: Can I put something like S2 and D2 with the Cores to get an A2, and then use all the 1s in Further?
It may be easier if you list all the modules you are considering doing.

For A-Level Maths, you must have C1-4 and two applied modules. The applied modules can be arranged as follows: D1 and D2, M1 and M2, S1 and S2, D1 and M1, D1 and S1, M1 and S1. You can't have any other combination.

If you put the hard work in, there's no reason why you can't do another three modules. If you're tight for time, you'd do the easiest modules.
3. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Groat)
It may be easier if you list all the modules you are considering doing.

For A-Level Maths, you must have C1-4 and two applied modules. The applied modules can be arranged as follows: D1 and D2, M1 and M2, S1 and S2, D1 and M1, D1 and S1, M1 and S1. You can't have any other combination.

If you put the hard work in, there's no reason why you can't do another three modules. If you're tight for time, you'd do the easiest modules.
All the Cores, FP1, FP3 and the 1s and 2s. So I'd choose my worst 1 and 2 for normal maths, probably the Ss, but I don't know what D2 will be like.

Basically, I'd definitely doing AS before Christmas, and then if I do a module every one and a half months or so I think I'll be fine with time.

There's nothing like having to get an average of 80 or 90% over FP1 and 3? So I could do well in the Ms, use the Ds because they're easier and get low UMS on FP1 and 3?
4. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
All the Cores, FP1, FP3 and the 1s and 2s. So I'd choose my worst 1 and 2 for normal maths, probably the Ss, but I don't know what D2 will be like.

Basically, I'd definitely doing AS before Christmas, and then if I do a module every one and a half months or so I think I'll be fine with time.

There's nothing like having to get an average of 80 or 90% over FP1 and 3? So I could do well in the Ms, use the Ds because they're easier and get low UMS on FP1 and 3?
Why do FP3 instead of FP2?

To get an A* in Maths you need 180/200 in C3 + C4 and 480/600 over your six units.
To get an A* in Further Maths you need 270/300 in your best three A2 modules (not including those put into Maths) and 480/600 over your six units.

In your case, the A2 units which could be put into Further Maths are FP3, D2, S2 and M2.
5. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
i was also wondering if you could finish furrther maths in one year(A2) as i have found the normal maths easy. how many modules are in further maths and how hard is it to do it in one year
6. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
I've done my AS exams for maths, physics and business. Very confident in maths, fairly sure I'll get a B in physics and because business is so unreliable I genuinely don't know what I'll get.

I've already started Further; D1 is almost finished, I'm going to do FP1 over the holidays and then D2 when we come back. This will be an AS and I hope to sit them all in January.

After January, is it possible for me to do another three modules, like FP1, S1 and S2, before summer? All on my own

I know you need C3 and C4 for FP3, but I'll be able to cope with that (I'll just look ahead). Are there any other sort of rules I need to know about? For example, to get an A* in maths you need an average of 90% in C3 and C4 and then an A overall.

Note: I do all the Cores, M1 and M2 in lessons. I'll be doing all of Further independently (which is another reason I'm doing it because I'll have proven that quality to unis). But of course I can ask for help.

EDIT: Can I put something like S2 and D2 with the Cores to get an A2, and then use all the 1s in Further?
Yeah it's possible - I did it. What exam board are you on?
7. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
i was also wondering if you could finish furrther maths in one year(A2) as i have found the normal maths easy. how many modules are in further maths and how hard is it to do it in one year. how many points do yo need to get an A in it
8. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by kaboon-supreme)
i was also wondering if you could finish furrther maths in one year(A2) as i have found the normal maths easy. how many modules are in further maths and how hard is it to do it in one year
It varies by exam board but generally you need FP1 and either one of FP2 or FP3 as well as 4 other modules for the whole A2. You could of course do FP2 AND FP3. To get an A* in further maths you need an average of 90UMS across your best 3 A2 modules, which means you can do 5 A2 modules if you want to try and give yourself a better chance of getting an A* (FP1 is the only AS unit, anything with a 2 is an A2 unit - so if you did M2, M3, S2, S3 and FP2 as well as FP1, then you would have 5 A2 units.)
9. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Benniboi1)
It varies by exam board but generally you need FP1 and either one of FP2 or FP3 as well as 4 other modules for the whole A2. You could of course do FP2 AND FP3. To get an A* in further maths you need an average of 90UMS across your best 3 A2 modules, which means you can do 5 A2 modules if you want to try and give yourself a better chance of getting an A* (FP1 is the only AS unit, anything with a 2 is an A2 unit - so if you did M2, M3, S2, S3 and FP2 as well as FP1, then you would have 5 A2 units.)
yes but how can i do it in one year. i want to achieve A so what is the best way to achieve that.
10. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
To me this seems a lot however this depends on what you want to do at university, if u want to do math's related subject then go for because now that university requirements get more demanding an extra A2 will definitely help a lot however if you are don't want to do maths (or maths related) subject at uni then don't do it because you might be risking a lot.
11. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Benniboi1)
Yeah it's possible - I did it. What exam board are you on?
OCR, which is easier because it has less?

EDIT: What did you get? And what modules, in which order and how long did it take you to complete each one on average? And did you have a teacher, or was it independent, like I'll be doing?
Last edited by MrBlueMo0n; 15-07-2012 at 17:31.
12. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Groat)
Why do FP3 instead of FP2?

To get an A* in Maths you need 180/200 in C3 + C4 and 480/600 over your six units.
To get an A* in Further Maths you need 270/300 in your best three A2 modules (not including those put into Maths) and 480/600 over your six units.

In your case, the A2 units which could be put into Further Maths are FP3, D2, S2 and M2.
Wow, it seems that I'm more likely to get an A* than an A in Further!

FP2 is harder apparently, or FP3 is easier, which reads the same way. Plus, my friends, who are sort of a year ahead, are going to be doing FP3 so I can use their knowledge

So I could put S1 and D1 in my normal A level, which would allow me to do badly in FP3 (especially with the whole C3 and C4 thing) and do well in all the 2s?

For example, 60 in FP1 and 3, M1 might be 95 (or higher), then I'd only need 265 over the three 2s. If I do that, then it's just under 270. So it looks difficult, yeah... Well it's possible! But all I need is an A, just like kaboon-supreme.
13. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Atropos)
To me this seems a lot however this depends on what you want to do at university, if u want to do math's related subject then go for because now that university requirements get more demanding an extra A2 will definitely help a lot however if you are don't want to do maths (or maths related) subject at uni then don't do it because you might be risking a lot.
What will I be risking? I genuinely think it's a better idea than business, because business is unreliable. I will still keep business, and all my others, but I think I'll focus on Further.

I want to do computer science.
14. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
Wow, it seems that I'm more likely to get an A* than an A in Further!

FP2 is harder apparently, or FP3 is easier, which reads the same way. Plus, my friends, who are sort of a year ahead, are going to be doing FP3 so I can use their knowledge

So I could put S1 and D1 in my normal A level, which would allow me to do badly in FP3 (especially with the whole C3 and C4 thing) and do well in all the 2s?

For example, 60 in FP1 and 3, M1 might be 95 (or higher), then I'd only need 265 over the three 2s. If I do that, then it's just under 270. So it looks difficult, yeah... Well it's possible! But all I need is an A, just like kaboon-supreme.
If you only need an A, then the exam board will shift modules around to maximise Maths first, and then maximise Further Maths. As you say, it's quite possible not to do well in one module and make it up with the rest.
15. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
What will I be risking? I genuinely think it's a better idea than business, because business is unreliable. I will still keep business, and all my others, but I think I'll focus on Further.

I want to do computer science.
Your exam board may not offer a D2 exam in January.
16. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by tiny hobbit)
Your exam board may not offer a D2 exam in January.
Well my friends are going to be doing D2, they've already started, so imagine they will be sitting it in January, along with me hopefully.
17. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
OCR, which is easier because it has less?

EDIT: What did you get? And what modules, in which order and how long did it take you to complete each one on average? And did you have a teacher, or was it independent, like I'll be doing?
What do you mean by the bit in bold?

Last year for AS I got an A (I'm on OCR MEI, so slightly different board) and will get an A overall (only needed B's from my summer exams to get an A). Yeah I completely self taught 7 modules and I really enjoyed it - it sets you up well for working at uni. It's hard to say how long on average it took to learn a module, if you're talking about getting a B then I could do that with 2-3 weeks intensive work on a module but getting A's and especially A*s is a different story. I started working for summer exams at the beginning of March and I had 3 maths modules (C4, FP2 and S3), I would alternate weeks in which I studied FP2 or S3 and spent about 2 days (3-4 hours a day) a week on whichever one I was learning that week. The pure modules are harder to grasp and take longer to learn but the exams are easier than the applied module exams if you know your stuff. I had (sort of) finished the content of each module by easter (so mid-April) which turned out to be a very very good idea because I didn't really get a chance to revise them during exam time, so I had between mid April and the end of May to properly revise for them. I'd say for summer exams, make sure you have finished the content by easter and for the January exams try and finish the module at the end of November, it just makes life much easier when you're revising!

The easiest combination is going to be down to which modules you find easiest, Decision is supposed to be easy but it's the only module (D1) that I haven't got an A on, so it really is just down to which modules suit you. What I would say is that try and do D1, D2, S1, S2, M1, M2 as this gives you the most flexibility when it comes to making sure you get an A in both Maths and Further as you don't have to specify which modules you want to put towards each A-level, they sort them out after you have done all of them into your best possible combination to get the highest grades possible. Someone above mentioned how for normal A-level Maths you need C1-4 and either something like: M1&M2, S1&S2, D1&D2 or a combination of any 2 'AS' modules (eg M1&D1, S1&M1) (also, sorry if this seems complicated, it took me a while to work it out as my teacher had no idea!). So by doing the modules I put above it gives you the best possible chance of getting A's, I only realised during exam season that if I had done D2 instead of S3 then I'd have only needed 56 UMS to get an A whereas I needed 70UMS from S3 to get an A in FM. So working out what modules to do beforehand really is a good idea.

So I did:
Jan 2011: D1 - B
June 2011: M1: A, FP1: A, S1: A
Jan 2012: S2: A, M2: A

as well as C1-4.

If you need any other help just ask!
18. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by kaboon-supreme)
yes but how can i do it in one year. i want to achieve A so what is the best way to achieve that.
Do 3 modules in Jan and 3 in summer. Read my post above about what gives you the best chance of getting A's.
19. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by Benniboi1)
Do 3 modules in Jan and 3 in summer. Read my post above about what gives you the best chance of getting A's.
On MyMaths when you click on the OCR tab it contains less topics than some of the others.

So you did the same as me - 3 modules in year 12 and then 9 in year 13?
Last edited by MrBlueMo0n; 15-07-2012 at 21:52. Reason: OCR
20. Re: A2 Further maths in a year?
(Original post by MrBlueMo0n)
On MyMaths when you click on the OCR tab it contains less topics than some of the others.

So you did the same as me - 3 modules in year 12 and then 9 in year 13?
Not exactly, I did 6 in year 12 and 6 in year 13. C1, C2, S1, M1, FP1, D1 last year and then the rest this year. I only did 2 in jan of year 12 and then 4 in the summer and got 4 A's without much hassle, so inevitably you're going to have to do 4 in Jan of year 13 and 5 in summer of year 13 (or the other way around) but if you work hard that will be do-able.

If OCR does have less content, it doesn't matter because it's all relative. There isn't an easier exam board, they're all pretty much the same.