[oz40]

Horrific news

My thoughts are with the girl and her family. Hopefully those responsible will be punished fully.

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Why hasn't this numpty faced the ban hammer?

What a disgusting individual you are.

Asian, black, brown, green or white - it doesn't matter what skin colour the person is. A crime is a crime.

[FreeHat]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
Let's not forget it is the very small minority of South Asian individuals who commit these acts.

Let's not forget that any one South Asian is far more likely to "commit these acts" than any one white British person.

In fact, this kind of organised targeting and "sharing" is an unprecedented phenomenon by which our previously hideous monocultural society has thankfully been enriched.

[FreeHat]

(Original post by oz40)
Horrific news

My thoughts are with the girl and her family. Hopefully those responsible will be punished fully.


Why hasn't this numpty faced the ban hammer?

What a disgusting individual you are.

Asian, black, brown, green or white - it doesn't matter what skin colour the person is. A crime is a crime.

Ok, maybe I was a tad extreme. Remove all Muslims may be more PC.

[zaliack]

(Original post by Dary)
Wrong. They are Asian.

They are so careful to try and hide the fact that they were Asian. We wouldnt want to actually address the problem would we??

They are addressing the problem: Some men abducted and raped a 13 year old girl. The fact that there are asian is irrelevent because there is far more white males doing this than there are asians.

[FreeHat]

(Original post by zaliack)
They are addressing the problem: Some men abducted and raped a 13 year old girl. The fact that there are asian is irrelevent because there is far more white males doing this than there are asians.

1) "doing this"

As I pointed out in my previous post, the ethnically based targeting, rape-and-share approach is unprecedented. There may be more white sex offenders, but there are not more whites "doing this".

2)You're not taking into account the population size. If you divided by the number of "South Asians" in the UK you'd see that South Asians are many times more likely to commit these crimes than the white population.

[Dary]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
Let's not forget it is the very small minority of South Asian individuals who commit these acts.

Tell that to their victims. I am sure it will comfort them. Yes it is a minority of the population just as most offenders are a minority of the populations but that does not mean that the problem is not significant and real.

We only hear about some of the attacks. As with rapes in general, many go unreported.

I dont think the Asian community wants these creeps in their neighbourhood either. That is why they need to step it up and not turn their back as well. The solution is through this community with education and direct teaching of cultural ethics and morals and zero tolerance of violence towards women of any background or race.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by FreeHat)
Let's not forget that any one South Asian is far more likely to "commit these acts" than any one white British person.

In fact, this kind of organised targeting and "sharing" is an unprecedented phenomenon by which our previously hideous monocultural society has thankfully been enriched.

Paedophile rings and trafficking have been around since time immemorial, so I would disagree with the assertion that this is some novel phenomenon.

This country has never been monocultural; are the Royal Family and a working-class builder the same in their behaviours and lifestyles?

[zaliack]

(Original post by FreeHat)
Let's not forget that any one South Asian is far more likely to "commit these acts" than any one white British person.

In fact, this kind of organised targeting and "sharing" is an unprecedented phenomenon by which our previously hideous monocultural society has thankfully been enriched.

So, let's see these statistics about Asian males being most likely to rape children. I'll start:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-2116771.html

150 pupils are about to sue a Catholic school, once the school finishes it's legal battle with the diocese. Seems to me that the most likely to abuse children is a white catholic male.

[Dary]

(Original post by zaliack)
They are addressing the problem: Some men abducted and raped a 13 year old girl. The fact that there are asian is irrelevent because there is far more white males doing this than there are asians.

That is not true. It is an Asian problem of gang abductions and rapes of white girls as they are culturally seen as disposable and worthless and they know if they did that within their own community there would be hell to pay.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Dary)
Tell that to their victims. I am sure it will comfort them. Yes it is a minority of the population just as most offenders are a minority of the populations but that does not mean that the problem is not significant and real.

We only hear about some of the attacks. As with rapes in general, many go unreported.

I dont think the Asian community wants these creeps in their neighbourhood either. That is why they need to step it up and not turn their back as well. The solution is through this community with education and direct teaching of cultural ethics and morals and zero tolerance of violence towards women of any background.

I was referring to these statements: "This South Asian disregard for women who are not visibly tightly bound to their family is not limited to these men. South Asian men refer to white women as sluts and whores if they are not "properly dressed" and therefore deserving of the worst treatment."

You explicitly universalise the situation and impute the behaviours to all South Asian people. Just like you wouldn't blame the behaviours of a relatively small amount of criminals on the entire British population, it is inaccurate to blame the behaviours of a relatively small amount of South Asian people on the entire South Asian population.

[zaliack]

(Original post by Dary)
That is not true. It is an Asian problem of gang abductions and rapes of white girls as they are culturally seen as disposable and worthless and they know if they did that within their own community there would be hell to pay.

Where in any of the articles did it say the girl was white?

[Toaster Leavings]

Am I the only one to notice that this is an allegation not a conviction? No wonder falsely accused rapists can have their lives ruined.

Still, if they did do it, I hope justice is served.

[zaliack]

(Original post by FreeHat)
1) "doing this"

As I pointed out in my previous post, the ethnically based targeting, rape-and-share approach is unprecedented. There may be more white sex offenders, but there are not more whites "doing this".

2)You're not taking into account the population size. If you divided by the number of "South Asians" in the UK you'd see that South Asians are many times more likely to commit these crimes than the white population.

I know a few people who have been subjected to the "rape-and-share" approach committed by all white males. The reality is, no one knows how many children are raped each year, by who, what race, and how. Statistics are completely inaccurate when it comes to this sort of crime, so the only thing you are relying on is what you've seen in the news in the past year.

[Dary]

(Original post by zaliack)
So, let's see these statistics about Asian males being most likely to rape children. I'll start:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...y-2116771.html

150 pupils are about to sue a Catholic school, once the school finishes it's legal battle with the diocese. Seems to me that the most likely to abuse children is a white catholic male.

Same thing happens in masjids all over the world. It is just not formally reported. The power of leaders in any organized religion is open to abuse and protected by the brainwashed faithful for whatever reason. At least the Catholic church has been forced through public pressure to address these wrongs. When will the Islamic community do the same?

Anyway, this is not analogous to the male Asian cultural views on women - especially white women.

[Mr Einstein]

(Original post by prog2djent)
Its in the Independent and Guardian as much as it is in the mail.

And the thought crossed my mind to, as it probably did with everyone reading the thread title, those that deny are just moral highground denialists.

**** you, idiot. You can't read minds.

[Dary]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
I was referring to these statements: "This South Asian disregard for women who are not visibly tightly bound to their family is not limited to these men. South Asian men refer to white women as sluts and whores if they are not "properly dressed" and therefore deserving of the worst treatment."

You explicitly universalise the situation and impute the behaviours to all South Asian people. Just like you wouldn't blame the behaviours of a relatively small amount of criminals on the entire British population, it is inaccurate to blame the behaviours of a relatively small amount of South Asian people on the entire South Asian population.

I went to school with South Asians and could not believe their views on white women. Just because they think and say these things does not mean they will act on them. But, when someone or a group does act on this attitude and commit a crime, they are more easily dismissed as it is more acceptable than it would have been if it had been one of their own. That is why it needs to be culturally addressed.

[tehforum]

(Original post by Aaron_xyz)
Not that I support the stereotypes of all Asians as rapists..

From the Huffington Post:

OH FFS

Our fears have not been unsubstantiated.

[FreeHat]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
Paedophile rings and trafficking have been around since time immemorial, so I would disagree with the assertion that this is some novel phenomenon.

This country has never been monocultural; are the Royal Family and a working-class builder the same in their behaviours and lifestyles?

So immigrants who are ethnically distinct from the population of the country they immigrated to have been "since time immemorial" raping and trafficking natives of the country they immigrated to? I don't think so, because immigration on a scale that permits the formation of these gangs in the UK is a relatively novel, mid-late 20th Century phenomenon. If this happened in any other era Muslims would be equally entitled- along with the Jews- to the word pogrom.

Ok; we "have never been monocultural", but our various cultures evolved to be mutually compatible, and I really doubt there's anything of cultural importance or value being introduced by immigrants from the "developing" world.

[blueray]

Pedos everywhere.

Well done op for using group in title.

[zaliack]

(Original post by FreeHat)
So immigrants who are ethnically distinct from the population of the country they immigrated to have been "since time immemorial" raping and trafficking natives of the country they immigrated to? I don't think so, because immigration on a scale that permits the formation of these gangs in the UK is a relatively novel, mid-late 20th Century phenomenon. If this happened in any other era Muslims would be equally entitled- along with the Jews- to the word pogrom.

Ok; we "have never been monocultural", but our various cultures evolved to be mutually compatible, and I really doubt there's anything of cultural importance or value being introduced by immigrants from the "developing" world.

Your basically saying a native raping a child is much more acceptable than a non-native.