[tehforum]

(Original post by blueray)
I hate scumy media making us think they were automatically asian. Tbh I knew they were white. Pedos everywhere.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1674461.html

[FreeHat]

(Original post by blueray)
I hate scumy media making us think they were automatically asian. Tbh I knew they were white. Pedos everywhere.

Mohamed Sheikh, Surin Uddin, Ali Hamza, Abdul Hammed

Yeh, I'm sure they planned their rape down at the local over a few pints.

[Lilahx]

(Original post by tehforum)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1674461.html

Abdul Hammed, Ali Hamza, Mohamed Sheikh, Surin Uddin.

Colour has no crime at all. Anybody can be a pervert..!

[Lilahx]

(Original post by blueray)
I hate scumy media making us think they were automatically asian. Tbh I knew they were white. Pedos everywhere.

Abdul Hammed, Ali Hamza, Mohamed Sheikh, Surin Uddin. They're not actually.

http://www.suffolk.police.uk/

[Dary]

I cant believe people wanting to soft peddle and cloud this very real problem.

If it were gangs of white Brits targeting, abducting and raping Asian women this would be front page news, huge demonstrations and international condemnation.

[Time Tourist]

(Original post by umarrehman187)
so funny..its so obvious that they were white men? why becasue if they were asian...they would be like FOUR ASIAN MEN RAPED 13 YEAR OLD...

No, this is the BBC.

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by umarrehman187)
when i see your people on jeremy kyle...im happy im asian

I'm guessing you didn't see the documentary about a girl being kidnapped and drugged for honour?

Asian pride (Y)

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Dary)
I went to school with South Asians and could not believe their views on white women. Just because they think and say these things does not mean they will act on them. But, when someone or a group does act on this attitude and commit a crime, they are more easily dismissed as it is more acceptable than it would have been if it had been one of their own. That is why it needs to be culturally addressed.

I went to school with South Asians and they didn't have any specific views on 'white' women as a collective because they treated each person uniquely. It is not "South Asian culture", it is a particular section of the population who possess these views. Similarly, British criminals do not commit their acts due to "British culture" (or more congruently, "West Europe culture"), they have their own viewpoints that they have formulated themselves.

(Original post by FreeHat)
So immigrants who are ethnically distinct from the population of the country they immigrated to have been "since time immemorial" raping and trafficking natives of the country they immigrated to? I don't think so, because immigration on a scale that permits the formation of these gangs in the UK is a relatively novel, mid-late 20th Century phenomenon. If this happened in any other era Muslims would be equally entitled- along with the Jews- to the word pogrom.

You don't acknowledge the existence of European/British paedophile rings?

Ok; we "have never been monocultural", but our various cultures evolved to be mutually compatible, and I really doubt there's anything of cultural importance or value being introduced by immigrants from the "developing" world.

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The only moderator of compatibility is the law. Is the religious sectarianism in Ireland and Scotland cultural compatibility? Are a fundamentalist Christian and an anti-theist culturally compatible? An animal rights activist and somebody who runs a battery farm? An elderly woman who enjoys knitting in silence and somebody who likes heavy metal, extreme body modifications and getting wasted?

Anything within British law is acceptable, and your assertion that all British people get along with each other is patently false. Why are you not friends with everyone you meet? Is it because you are behaviourally incompatible, perhaps?

[blueray]

(Original post by tehforum)
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1674461.html

(Original post by FreeHat)
Mohamed Sheikh, Surin Uddin, Ali Hamza, Abdul Hammed

Yeh, I'm sure they planned their rape down at the local over a few pints.

(Original post by Lilahx)
Abdul Hammed, Ali Hamza, Mohamed Sheikh, Surin Uddin.

Colour has no crime at all. Anybody can be a pervert..!

Read my post again

[Dary]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
I went to school with South Asians and they didn't have any specific views on 'white' women as a collective because they treated each person uniquely.

LOOOL

That is not true and you know it if you are being honest. Cultural attitudes towards women just in general are VERY strong in that community. Women's perceived role and place is a central part of their culture.

[Azaro]

not surprising , since muslims were involved

[oz40]

(Original post by Azaro)
not surprising , since muslims were involved

Nice try, except such crimes are punishable by death in countries such as Saudi Arabia.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Dary)
LOOOL

That is not true and you know it if you are being honest. Cultural attitudes towards women just in general are VERY strong in that community. Women's perceived role is a central part of their culture.

If that were not the case I wouldn't have made the assertion.

Consider the possibility that your belief that there is a community with a definitive set of viewpoints is fallacious. Similarly, somebody seeing drunken British people in Ayia Napa and concluding all British people know or identify with each other and have the same behaviours and lifestyles would be wrong. Two people identifying under the same arbitrary banner does not mean either one of their personalities are definitive attributes of that arbitrary banner. You should stop attempting to reify the arbitrary concept of 'culture' when it is evident there is not a single psychological thing in common amongst all South Asian people.

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by FreeHat)
1) "doing this"

As I pointed out in my previous post, the ethnically based targeting, rape-and-share approach is unprecedented. There may be more white sex offenders, but there are not more whites "doing this".

2)You're not taking into account the population size. If you divided by the number of "South Asians" in the UK you'd see that South Asians are many times more likely to commit these crimes than the white population.

1) Prove to me there are less white pedos acting than ethnic ones....links...

2)Getting a few bad eggs here is not warrant for the generalisation that Asians are more likely to be pedos...

[Dary]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
If that were not the case I wouldn't have made the assertion.

Consider the possibility that your belief that there is a community with a definitive set of viewpoints is fallacious. Similarly, somebody seeing drunken British people in Ayia Napa and concluding all British people know or identify with each other and have the same behaviours and lifestyles would be wrong. Two people identifying under the same arbitrary banner does not mean either one of their personalities are definitive attributes of that arbitrary banner. You should stop attempting to reify the arbitrary concept of 'culture' when it is evident there is not a single psychological thing in common amongst all South Asian people.

You have absolutely no knowledge of eastern culture and what is even worse, you have the Western arrogance to assume that the cultures of the world are in sync with your western upbringing thoughts and ideals.

Educate yourself. Eastern culture in general is very family and gender based. That is the center of the culture and everything else spins around that. There is little room for independent thought when it comes to family and gender roles - even for academics and professionals. You have to abide by the cultural standards or discretely work around them to maintain an honourable place in the community.

[Snagprophet]

It's not that it's because they're Asian they did it, it's that they are treated much better than if a white person went round raping a load of Asian kids. The Rochedale perverts were ignored because the police were scared of being racist. ****ing hypocrisy at it's finest. **** PC nonsense. **** this anti-white discrimination.

[Azaro]

(Original post by oz40)
Nice try, except such crimes are punishable by death in countries such as Saudi Arabia.

nice try, but the only ones being in saudi arabia in rape cases are the victims.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Dary)
You have absolutely no knowledge of eastern culture and what is even worse, you have the Western arrogance to assume that the cultures of the world are in sync with your western thoughts and ideals.

Educate yourself. Eastern culture in general is very family and gender based. That is the center of the culture and everything else spins around that. There is little room for independent thought when it comes to family and gender roles - even for academics and professionals. You have to abide by the cultural standards or discretely work around them to maintain an honourable place in the community.

I'm not the one claiming billions of people are the same. Do not conflate salience and universality—they are not equivalent. You are claiming everybody who identifies as South Asian is psychologically bound to a state of treating family and gender as important (demonstrably false, unless family breakdown doesn't exist amongst South Asian people and every male and female goes into identical professions), so what would be the equivalent claim for 'Western culture'? What does every person in the 'West' do?

[Dary]

(Original post by whyumadtho)
I'm not the one claiming billions of people are the same. Do not conflate salience and universality—they are not equivalent. You are claiming everybody who identifies as South Asian is psychologically bound to a state of treating family and gender as important (demonstrably false, unless family breakdown doesn't exist amongst South Asian people and every male and female goes into identical professions), so what would be the equivalent claim for 'Western culture'? What does every person in the 'West' do?

You obviously have no background in eastern cultural practice and are basing the your theory of mind of others based on Western thought and multicultural ideals. As I have said, this is western arrogance in the extreme. You have no background and no basis to discuss so you want to dilute and redirect the convo to your comfort zone and to that which you do have some familiarity. I am not interested.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Dary)
You obviously have no background in eastern cultural practice and are basing the your theory of mind of others based on Western thought and multicultural ideals. As I have said, this is western arrogance in the extreme. You have no background and no basis to discuss so you want to dilute and redirect the convo to your comfort zone and to that which you do have some familiarity. I am not interested.

In other words, you cannot refute what I'm saying and are relying on wholly unsubstantiated circumstantial ad hominem attacks. Okay.