[tufc]

(Original post by cpdavis)
I would laugh so hard if your wife left you to be in a same sex relationship and all the kids you have turn out to be gay. Then what would you do?

Reasonably unlikely to happen

Have you not got anything better to do then to wonder around these threads and go on about how much you hate gays? You are not even a funny troll

Just leave. Please.

I don't hate gays. I hate having their sexuality being triumphantly waved in my face. And haven't you got anything better to do than w[b]aa[b]nder round these threads, showing all and sundry how brainwashed you are? You've probably even got a birthmark that says 'BBC'.

[tufc]

(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
Yeah and if I said that about interracial couples the place would go bonkers.

The place would go bonkers, you're right. But that's slightly different from feeling a bit queasy about homosexuality.

[pandaz]

(Original post by Odiem23)
Well first you have to ask what morality or immorality is. I believe that what is immoral is what goes against the will of God and what God holds to be sinful. People nowadays see homosexuality as something which is up to the individual; but humans were created by and are sustained by God and should, therefore, follow his will and his desire. So if you want the religious perspective - at least the christian perspective - homosexuality is immoral - as is lying, stealing, hatred, fornication, pride e.t.c.

Have you read the Bible? Cz I JUST did to prepare for my Lit degree, and NOTHING in there is that moral :P Unless you consider a jealous God moral, or Leah and Rachel having a battle of who could have more babies with Jacob :P

[NDGAARONDI]

(Original post by tufc)
The place would go bonkers, you're right. But that's slightly different from feeling a bit queasy about homosexuality.

Would you like to explain me why then?

[KasanDude]

(Original post by tufc)
It used to be run in the interests of the majority. Watching gay people kiss makes me feel slightly ill.

Fair enough. Yet you do not have any ownership over the concept of a marriage, therefore you have no right to be against gay marriage. For example, I dislike fat parents. I think they are setting a horrible example for their children, an example which will have a scientifically-documented, negative effect on their health. I feel sad when I see them walking about. However, I wouldn't for a second think of being against obese parenthood, as I have no ownership of a parental paradigm, nor do I have any right to infringe on people's lives.

(Original post by tufc)
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...4660-2,00.html

I got the stat wrong, though: over a 12-year period, 21% of the studied gay relationships broke up, whilst amongst the heterosexual couples studied, that figure was only 14%.

The survey size was so small that it bares no weight on reality. It's a bit like if you were to interview people living on your street as to what their favorite ice-cream is and then using that as a national/world-wide statistic.

Also, as to what you said previously about nature not wanting homosexual couples to have sex, what about heterosexual couples where one or both of the people have some sort of reproductive disorder and they are unable to have children? If they are born with the disorder, you can also say that nature does not want them to have children.

I'd say that nature does not have a set of specific rules as to personal conduct. This renders the natural/unnatural argument moot. The only real pre-requisite to being "natural" is to survive, and as homosexuality has no documented affect on life-expectancy that I'm aware of, it is irrelevant.

[robin22391]

(Original post by Hewitt)
Personally I don't think it is. What do you guys think - from a religious perspective?

i dont think so, but morality is probably genetic, and so maybe it is natural for humans to regard it as something to discourage.

but now a new question...

is pedophilia immoral?

[robin22391]

(Original post by NDGAARONDI)
Would you like to explain me why then?

its probably an evolutionary reaction espescially among males.

[EonBlueApocalypse]

Well done everyone for successfully feeding this troll to bursting point.

[ConnorB]

No more immoral than wearing clothing made of more than one type of fabric according to the bible.

[Dinnes]

(Original post by tufc)
No, I don't support any state-endorsed discrimination. I want gay people to have the same civil rights as everyone else, but I don't think that their sexuality should be plastered all over the mainstream media. I want them to have the right to go and kiss in public, but I want them to feel pressured not to.

Yes, because obviously state-endorsed discrimination has absolutely no similarities at all with pressuring gays not to kiss in public.

Homophobia is worst when people try and justify it.

[Dinnes]

(Original post by tufc)
Reasonably unlikely to happen



I don't hate gays. I hate having their sexuality being triumphantly waved in my face. And haven't you got anything better to do than w[b]aa[b]nder round these threads, showing all and sundry how brainwashed you are? You've probably even got a birthmark that says 'BBC'.

Ok so basically you have a thing against the mass media. I don't know if you've realised but having to post our views on a student forum generally implies we aren't part of the huge tyrannical journalist regime which is clearly oppressing our poor nation. So frankly considering that the title of this discusses morality your point makes absolutely no contribution to the topic.

Oh and yeah, flame away. That's a great way to endear people to you, people will really listen to your point of view.

[Dinnes]

(Original post by tufc)
The place would go bonkers, you're right. But that's slightly different from feeling a bit queasy about homosexuality.

Discrimination is discrimination, and it has no part in our society.

[justme12]

(Original post by tufc)
21% of straight relationships survive four years; amongst homosexuals, that figure is only 14%.

So you base the value of a relationship by how long it lasts? That's actually ridiculous to be honest, doesn't the amount of love in that relationship count for more than the length? Should a couple just carry on regardless?

[justme12]

(Original post by constantmeowage)
So you plan on discriminating against people for things outside their control that happened due to a mix of genetic and (perhaps) slight environmental circumstances, just because it leads to 'unwholesome' relationships?

Please define unwholesome for me in this context, because I presume you're talking about child-making?


This was posted from The Student Room's iPhone/iPad App

I must disagree with your assertion of a slight environmental element, while I believe we have no control over our sexuality what so ever I don't believe it is as down to genetics as some would have us think.

[Bellissima]

(Original post by tufc)
No, but it should be discouraged.

every post i see from you leads me closer and closer to the conclusion that you are, in fact, an idiot.

[Ham22]

no op.

[AverageExcellence]

Homophobia is a very victorian ideal. Before that homosexuality was pretty common in the UK. It was only banned in the late 1800s and reinstated in 1967. People that say its not natural or untraditional need to research their stuff a bit more thoroughly

[Hewitt]

(Original post by tufc)
The place would go bonkers, you're right. But that's slightly different from feeling a bit queasy about homosexuality.

Well to be perfectly honest I feel queasy around people like you who think I somehow a sinner or bad person just because I am living an honest life.

And why did you bring up gay marriage? That is an entirely different question and you will find that there are in fact many gay people who oppose gay marriage.

I am not trying to shove my views in your face and I am not responsible for what the mass media does. All I ask is that you treat homosexuals with respect and tolerance, as it is certainly not a choice. If you got to know a few you might realise that they are 'normal' in pretty much every other way - so it is a silly thing to judge a person's character and morality on.

And about the statistic, maybe if gay people were embraced and accepted by all and it really wasn't a taboo in any way whatsoever the average relationship may last longer.

[amyelizabeth2681]

(Original post by tufc)
I can't go out on the street any more without having brazen homosexuality thrust in my face, through gay couples holding hands, kissing, wearing Pride t-shirts. They're trying to corrupt the sacred institution of marriage; they're trying to limit freedom of speech just so that no-one can offend them or damage their agenda; they demand the right to adopt children, despite the fact that Mother Nature has precluded them from raising children.

So such relationships do have an effect on my life, because they pollute the society I exist in.

To be honest, not sure what world you live in, but heterosexuality is constantly shoved down our throats. From Armani ads depicting men and women in scantily clad underwear to the couple in the back of the bus shoving their tongue down each others throats. Seeing a rainbow coloured t-shirt suddenly seems pretty innocent to me.

Sacred institution of marriage? Really? Surely divorce was a greater threat to marriage than homosexual marriage. Heaven forbid homosexuals be allowed to get married whilst the sanctity of Britney Spears's 55 hour marriage be allowed to remain. But I digress.

Mother nature also created men and women who are infertile, yet I don't see them being barred from being allowed to adopt children. And before you give me the predictable excuse of "it's not natural for children to be raised in a household without parents of both sexes" as seems to be the common defense when confronted with logic, hate to break it to you, but there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that children who are raised by a homosexual couple will be any worse off than one raised by a straight couple. You should also remember single parent households have also become common in today's society, where only one parent (one sex) is present.

And they affect your life because you choose to be bigoted. However, THEY have no choice over their sexuality. Who's polluting society more I wonder.....

[aoleks]

the only immoral thing is to stick your nose in other people's lives because they are different. and when this behavior is driven by religious "norms", it gets even worse!

what makes me even more sad is that people who are on a forum for higher education, where science and academics should be at home, still dare to discuss this kind of issues in 2012. shame on you!