[pandaz]

(Original post by amyelizabeth2681)
To be honest, not sure what world you live in, but heterosexuality is constantly shoved down our throats. From Armani ads depicting men and women in scantily clad underwear to the couple in the back of the bus shoving their tongue down each others throats. Seeing a rainbow coloured t-shirt suddenly seems pretty innocent to me.

Sacred institution of marriage? Really? Surely divorce was a greater threat to marriage than homosexual marriage. Heaven forbid homosexuals be allowed to get married whilst the sanctity of Britney Spears's 55 hour marriage be allowed to remain. But I digress.

Mother nature also created men and women who are infertile, yet I don't see them being barred from being allowed to adopt children. And before you give me the predictable excuse of "it's not natural for children to be raised in a household without parents of both sexes" as seems to be the common defense when confronted with logic, hate to break it to you, but there is absolutely no proof whatsoever that children who are raised by a homosexual couple will be any worse off than one raised by a straight couple. You should also remember single parent households have also become common in today's society, where only one parent (one sex) is present.

And they affect your life because you choose to be bigoted. However, THEY have no choice over their sexuality. Who's polluting society more I wonder.....

exactly what you said! :P

[Odiem23]

(Original post by pandaz)
Have you read the Bible? Cz I JUST did to prepare for my Lit degree, and NOTHING in there is that moral :P Unless you consider a jealous God moral, or Leah and Rachel having a battle of who could have more babies with Jacob :P

Yes I have read the Bible. But I fail to see the relevance of your comments to my comment. You used the word 'moral' but, as I suggested in my previous comment, its not about what you consider to be moral or what I consider to be moral - God's standards are different and much higher than human standards. The Bible talks about humans committing sins, justifying their condemnation by and revealing his true mercy to us; so yes of course immorality is mentioned within its pages. Aside from this, I'm not sure I really can respond to your comment, given the fact that it seems unrelated to mine.

[Venomilys]

(Original post by willbee)
Is Heterosexuality immoral? NO.

Is Homosexuality immoral? NO.

To all heterosexuals: are you attracted to the same sex? NO. Is this by choice? NO.

To all homosexuals: are you attracted to the opposite sex? NO. Is this by choice? NO.

If you don't get a choice to make a moral decision, you can't be doing something moral or immoral.

Applying the same logic to pedophiles..

To all pedophiles: are you attracted to your own age group? NO. Is this by choice? NO.

Very poor reasoning.

[paragus3]

The only reason i am attractedto women is because they have a vagina.

I honestly dont see how a man can be attracted to another man when they have exactly the same assets??? If you love the penis so much play with your own? the same goes for lesbians.

not to mention the extra risk of AIDS with anal sex as blood could most likely make contact with sperm. Many women dont do anal with their partners because the anus is designed for things to come out of it not to go in, it hurts, and i believe it is wrong. If i date a girl and she says shes ok with gay people, then she should also be ok with me performing anal sex on her because thats is what gay men do to eachother. But most women dont agree with anal sex and therefore subconsciously dont agree with homosexuality. The media makes them to think they do.

I honestly belive its not men your attracted to but masculinity. And there are many women out there with the same if not more masculinity then most men. you should try dating masculine women instead so at least your reproductive assets are compatable.

Im just worried about the influence the media might have as most satanic rituals that take place involve same sex intercorse.

[constantmeowage]

(Original post by justme12)
I must disagree with your assertion of a slight environmental element, while I believe we have no control over our sexuality what so ever I don't believe it is as down to genetics as some would have us think.

Hence why I put perhaps in brackets in order not to assert the claim as my own. Personally I believe gay people have the genetic coding to be 'susceptible', if you like, to being gay, but it is the exact environmental conditions (out of the control of the child) which activate this coding. But alas, I'm not a scientist, so apologies if this does not make biological sense.

[constantmeowage]

(Original post by paragus3)
The only reason i am attractedto women is because they have a vagina.

I honestly dont see how a man can be attracted to another man when they have exactly the same assets??? If you love the penis so much play with your own? the same goes for lesbians.

not to mention the extra risk of AIDS with anal sex as blood could most likely make contact with sperm. Many women dont do anal with their partners because the anus is designed for things to come out of it not to go in, it hurts, and i believe it is wrong. If i date a girl and she says shes ok with gay people, then she should also be ok with me performing anal sex on her because thats is what gay men do to eachother. But most women dont agree with anal sex and therefore subconsciously dont agree with homosexuality. The media makes them to think they do.

I honestly belive its not men your attracted to but masculinity. And there are many women out there with the same if not more masculinity then most men. you should try dating masculine women instead so at least your reproductive assets are compatable.

Im just worried about the influence the media might have as most satanic rituals that take place involve same sex intercorse.

You are straight because you like vagina. Gay men are gay because they like penis. Surely your logic would work on gay people too, or is that just more of your homophobic scaremongering nonsense bull talking?

[amyelizabeth2681]

(Original post by pandaz)
exactly what you said! :P

Haha thanks. It's just annoying when people try to hide behind lame excuses for their own personal biases, can be anything from thumping a Bible to pointing to pseudo biology. Just admit that you have an irrational dislike for a certain group of people because it's different from what you've known and your brain is too small to wrap itself around it. Stop giving me these crap excuses to attempt to justify it, you'll just look like a tool.

[gagaslilmonsteruk]

Those who have problems with being gay are likely to be insecure about themselves, and may even be gay themselves. I mean look at Karoffsky in Glee. He went around bullying Kurt for like nearly 2 years, but it turned out he was insecure about being gay himself.

[paragus3]

(Original post by constantmeowage)
You are straight because you like vagina. Gay men are gay because they like penis. Surely your logic would work on gay people too, or is that just more of your homophobic scaremongering nonsense bull talking?

so you couldn't see the concept in my logic? the fact that the only reason i am attracted to women because they have a vagina lies of the concept of the of DIFFERENCE.

basically the only reason i am attracted to women is because they are DIFFERENT, thats what i meant so NO, you cant use the same logic for gays because they are exactly the same hence the scientific term SAME sex, smart ass.

[paragus3]

(Original post by gagaslilmonsteruk)
Those who have problems with being gay are likely to be insecure about themselves, and may even be gay themselves. I mean look at Karoffsky in Glee. He went around bullying Kurt for like nearly 2 years, but it turned out he was insecure about being gay himself.

you just prove my point about media influence. Its a programme not real life SMH

[DaveSmith99]

Nope, and I can't see how anyone could reasonably argue that it is.

(Original post by tufc)


Me.

Well science, nature and history disagree, I wonder who I should believe.

[Alkain1607]

Jesus says to 'love thy neighbour', and let 'he who is without sin cast the first stone'. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a bad word about Homosexuality. I'm a christian, and a proud one, but no, I don't think homosexuality is against the law of God in the new testament. I don't have anything against it, because it's not hurting me- all homosexuals are doing is following the golden commandment, just like heterosexuals: 'love thy neighbour.'

[constantmeowage]

(Original post by paragus3)
so you couldn't see the concept in my logic? the fact that the only reason i am attracted to women because they have a vagina lies of the concept of the of DIFFERENCE.

basically the only reason i am attracted to women is because they are DIFFERENT, thats what i meant so NO, you cant use the same logic for gays because they are exactly the same hence the scientific term SAME sex, smart ass.

You've failed to explain why one cannot be attracted to the same [sex], so your argument is incomplete.

[Redolent]

(Original post by paragus3)
so you couldn't see the concept in my logic? the fact that the only reason i am attracted to women because they have a vagina lies of the concept of the of DIFFERENCE.

basically the only reason i am attracted to women is because they are DIFFERENT, thats what i meant so NO, you cant use the same logic for gays because they are exactly the same hence the scientific term SAME sex, smart ass.

Why is it moral to be attracted to difference and immoral to be attracted to similarity

"Logic" cannot be used to justify a sexuality, there is no choice to it and therefore no logic behind it

[paragus3]

(Original post by constantmeowage)
You've failed to explain why one cannot be attracted to the same [sex], so your argument is incomplete.

asking me to explain that is like asking me to explain "why are pedophiles attracted to young girls?" there is no answer, nor is one relevant. The fact is its wrong as i stated in my first comment. Go and read it or dont reply.

[Odiem23]

(Original post by Alkain1607)
Jesus says to 'love thy neighbour', and let 'he who is without sin cast the first stone'. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a bad word about Homosexuality. I'm a christian, and a proud one, but no, I don't think homosexuality is against the law of God in the new testament. I don't have anything against it, because it's not hurting me- all homosexuals are doing is following the golden commandment, just like heterosexuals: 'love thy neighbour.'

Just a word of correction: read Romans chapter 1 verses 26 - 27. And also 1 Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9.

[DaveSmith99]

(Original post by Alkain1607)
Jesus says to 'love thy neighbour', and let 'he who is without sin cast the first stone'. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, but he never said a bad word about Homosexuality. I'm a christian, and a proud one, but no, I don't think homosexuality is against the law of God in the new testament. I don't have anything against it, because it's not hurting me- all homosexuals are doing is following the golden commandment, just like heterosexuals: 'love thy neighbour.'

The bible also says men who have sex with other men should be put to death.

[pandaz]

(Original post by amyelizabeth2681)
Haha thanks. It's just annoying when people try to hide behind lame excuses for their own personal biases, can be anything from thumping a Bible to pointing to pseudo biology. Just admit that you have an irrational dislike for a certain group of people because it's different from what you've known and your brain is too small to wrap itself around it. Stop giving me these crap excuses to attempt to justify it, you'll just look like a tool.

It's as simple as that! And in the society that I live in, it's even MORE people going around spreading these lies and prejudices about homosexuals...Honest to God (although maybe I can't use His name since I'm a gay sinner hahahahahaha :P) I just don't get the rationale of some people! The best argument I've EVER heard, is "I'm not a racist, I just hate the blacks and the gays" ... Needless to say I was shocked :P

[thenumber2goose]

(Original post by Odiem23)
Well first you have to ask what morality or immorality is. I believe that what is immoral is what goes against the will of God and what God holds to be sinful. People nowadays see homosexuality as something which is up to the individual; but humans were created by and are sustained by God and should, therefore, follow his will and his desire. So if you want the religious perspective - at least the christian perspective - homosexuality is immoral - as is lying, stealing, hatred, fornication, pride e.t.c.

...and judging others

[paragus3]

(Original post by Redolent)
Why is it moral to be attracted to difference and immoral to be attracted to similarity

"Logic" cannot be used to justify a sexuality, there is no choice to it and therefore no logic behind it

There is. And the logic behind sexuality is reproduction. So what on earth are you talking about?