(Original post by rad_student)
First can you pick from this Types of Feminism list
, so I know what type of feminism(s) you believe in? There are many strands, some good, some bad (probiotic like).
I'm an Equalist, there is only ONE type, I do not use feminist shaming language & hope neither will u. I do worry for the ~7% & ~26 of women who die in their work or suicide, as well as the majority of men.
One thing common with modern day feminists is your intellectual dishonesty &, when giving women's stats not giving the same results for men. Some E.g.s
I mean "1 in 4 women in the UK will experience domestic violence in their lifetime
", well that same survey said that will happen to 1 in 6 men. If you had bothered to listen to the first few minutes of the link 1 gave u, the one where you replied
. You must have missed the Home Office 1999 link data (pdf page 7
) saying that both men & women commit equal
amounts of DV only a page before. Although wherever there is DV stats its often someone (women mainly) that runs women's shelter that frames the situation/discourse for funding, + leverage in getting kids, for £, etc.
"only 35% of incidents of domestic abuse are reported, and women are on average assaulted 35 times before they call the police"
stats, also mentions #(5) 2010/11 21 men & 94 women murdered by a ex-/partner which in the grand scheme of things is minor <compared to cancer deaths>. Under-reporting by men #(12 in link) 28% by men 13% by women.
Surely you saw this when replying to me on "Why is domestic violence seen as a gender issue?" Along with that the most abuse happens in a lesbian relationship - twice the women recorded.
35 times eh?? I was sure I saw 37 in an AUS survey. Well the study is 31 years old and not even British
"Take a look at the Houses of Parliament. How many women do you see there? And on company boards? How many women are on those?"
You seem to underestimate the power of children for women, ask J.Valenti. Here a powerful woman tells you why women can't have it all
. The only woman who can have it all is “superhuman, rich, and in charge.”
Too high brow? WomenOn.org:
"Some women interviewed for the report suggested that they ‘need a senior women role model they could identify with, rather than a woman who has given up everything to get to the top’. Who is going to tell them?
To get to the top in any industry is hard; it requires making difficult choices and setting priorities."
Men make sacrifices, show me men who have it all
? Apex Fallacy? Ignorance or cognitive dissonance?
"And what about the little girls born in the UK who are sent to Africa by their families to undergo genital cutting?"
It is mainly the women (often traditional mothers) who enforce this; jezebel.com
: "One difficulty in eliminating the practice comes from the women themselves,"; just look at news story to see the adult women's part. Matriachy?
I hope in my lifetime, the world can look at circumcision just as we look at FGM.
My first post was debunking rape stats (can argue with Harvard Referencing
, but my data analysis is still professional) & I remember how Historophilia made a reference to JaggySnake95 "Find me data.
Data. Or I will label you here and now as a waste of oxygen." So apart from % of DV, as I have already given you, find me your factoid, google it with the word myth & see if its worth inform/educating us. Don't waste my or the others time (I have to go to the gym NOW b4 it closes, as u made me miss my yoga class).
Have you figured out why modern feminists & Govt do this? Tell me if you disagreed with what I wrote
Just to balance argument look at: Glen Poole who wrote "13-reasons-its-unlucky-to-be-a-man.
", did a recent talk at LSE A New Gender Agenda
OPEN YOUR EYES
& look at the world from a M:F or F:M perspective; as u can't see the whole picture.
Things You'll Never Hear A Feminist Say. Its very funny! Do you say any of these things? Maybe the arguments r not good, take it to your next feminist get-together & debunk it or at your Politics A2 (Maggie Thatcher anyone) as a class discussion?