[Plushie]

(Original post by marcusfox)
Those are statistics and research that prove the point that physical (as well as emotional) abuse is roughly equivalent between the sexes, i.e. the statistics you asked for.

You were asking for statistics and evidence because you somehow did not believe that what another poster was saying - that there is parity between the genders when it comes to domestic violence.

To simply dismiss them out of hand as you did is the true mark of a closed mind.

I didn't ask for the statistics because I didn't believe what the other poster was saying, I was interested in learning the other posters opinions and wanted to know more. I didn't dismiss them out of hand at all, I told limetang that I'll have a look at the links properly when I have time; I've had a browse since but would like to spend more time reading through and then I can come back to yours. I'm at work on my lunch break so until I have time at home then I can address your stuff properly too.

I like how you just assume because I'm a feminist I automatically don't believe people when they show me stats. I even agreed with your statistics what the **** else do you want from me? A true mark of a closed mind is a person who doesn't read anything that I have written and continues to assume I don't wan't to listen when really it's you who wishes not to listen to me.

[marcusfox]

(Original post by Plushie)
I didn't ask for the statistics because I didn't believe what the other poster was saying, I was interested in learning the other posters opinions and wanted to know more. I didn't dismiss them out of hand at all, I told limetang that I'll have a look at the links properly when I have time; I've had a browse since but would like to spend more time reading through and then I can come back to yours. I'm at work on my lunch break so until I have time at home then I can address your stuff properly too.

I like how you just assume because I'm a feminist I automatically don't believe people when they show me stats. I even agreed with your statistics what the **** else do you want from me? A true mark of a closed mind is a person who doesn't read anything that I have written and continues to assume I don't wan't to listen when really it's you who wishes not to listen to me.

Yes I read what you wrote.

Asking someone to prove their argument clearly shows that you didn't believe that the argument holds water as opposed to what you thought was the correct view.

(Original post by Plushie)
^ I kind of agree, but it is still a gender issue because the overwhelming majority of the time it is men committing violence against women. Women committing violence against men is just as serious and disgusting as the other way round, but it's is much more rare compared to men being violent to women in the home, so a solution needs to bear this in mind.

and then when a counter argument was proposed...

(Original post by Plushie)
Well then can I please see all the official statistics and evidence you have to prove this?

Otherwise you would have said, something along the lines of 'I'd be interested in any links you have so I can learn more.

Your reply doesn't indicate agreement with me at all, it shows that you think that the statistics do not show physical violence is roughly the same between sexes.

Otherwise what does

(Original post by Plushie)
Sorry for all your effort marcusfox but I already knew that; I was talking about physical violence [...]

mean, other than an attempt to write off the statistics as you believe they do not show physical violence is roughly equivalent?

[Plushie]

Thank you for the links limetang, I'll take a proper look shortly I think feminists have an unjust reputation to cover their ears and not listen to anyone elses opinion even when they provide evidence, but I am open to other peoples opinions and genuinely listen to what they say.

^

Why are you trying to tell me what I meant? My 'counter argument' wasn't a counter argument because it was made before I saw the links. Since then I haven't argued with any of it because I haven't properly seen it yet. Since I haven't yet had chance to look at the statistics, I don't yet have an opinion on what the statistics show. Why are you trying to inject random bull**** into things I've yet to say?

Whatever you may have interpreted from a sentence is your problem, not mine.

If I wasn't interested in another persons argument and I didn't want to know about it why would I ask to know about it?! Makes no damn sense.

[Bobo1234]

(Original post by Bellissima)
there always have been anti-men women and there always have been anti-women men... the problem was that the men were more powerful and dare i say it anti-women attitude was much more prevalent.

there still are sexist men and there still are sexist women. sexist men are a lot more dangerous in general than the average sexist woman... if your only complaint of sexism is "oh men are to blame for my relationship failing" then really, you don't have much to complain about compared to "my woman who i rape most nights looked at another man she is cheating on me stone her to death" or these honour killings.

also when you end a relationship you are very upset and not that rational... most people don't want to blame themselves and admit they were part of the problem.

This seems like quite off-the-point hyperbole, with that last comparison being particularly ridiculous as it's not what the OP was saying at all...

The last part however, is fairly sensible, and I agree.