State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011
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State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Good for them
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPol...aspx?id=271628Israel approved only one asylum application out of 4,603 received in 2011, according to a report recently released by the US State Department.
Quoting figures compiled by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), the report states that 3,692 asylum requests were rejected and an additional 6,412 remained pending at year’s end.
Compiled by the State Department’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, the Israel/Palestine country report on Human Rights Practices for 2011 mentions controversy over the terminology used to refer to African migrants, mentioning how government officials routinely refer to asylum-seekers as “infiltrators” and quoting statements made by Interior Minister Eli Yishai, including one made to Army Radio last December in which he vowed to safeguard Israel as a Jewish state and deport “all of the infiltrators to their countries.” -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011No, not good for them. Pretty hypocritical of Israel to take this stance towards assylum seekers considering how much they play the holocaust card.
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011
This is a video I saw on a blog I read some time ago, An Israeli woman spoke out towards protesters whom wanted all non-Jewish Africans expelled from Israel.
Just in case the video doesn't work, as it doesn't for me; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOomB...layer_embeddedLast edited by callan; 18-07-2012 at 00:50. Reason: Video not working for me -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011What on earth is 'playing the Holocaust card'? I've heard idiots use this phrase all the time as if there is some kind of limitation to the amount of time you can talk about one of history's largest evils, either that or its as if the situation in these asylum seekers' countries of origin is comparable to Nazi Germany.(Original post by pol pot noodles)
No, not good for them. Pretty hypocritical of Israel to take this stance towards assylum seekers considering how much they play the holocaust card. -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Shocking racism in both the video and the comments under the video.(Original post by callan)
This is a video I saw on a blog I read some time ago, An Israeli woman spoke out towards protesters whom wanted all non-Jewish Africans expelled from Israel.
Just in case the video doesn't work, as it doesn't for me; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOomB...layer_embeddedLast edited by Phantom Lord; 18-07-2012 at 01:08. -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011I'd say the limit is when it stops being relevant and starts becoming a 'card' to play.(Original post by Rhadamanthus)
What on earth is 'playing the Holocaust card'? I've heard idiots use this phrase all the time as if there is some kind of limitation to the amount of time you can talk about one of history's largest evils, either that or its as if the situation in these asylum seekers' countries of origin is comparable to Nazi Germany.
Sometimes it will be relevant and necessary to raise, and sometimes it won't. For the times it isn't worthwhile, it's 'playing the X card'. -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Wow, what an unenlightened, pointless post.(Original post by arron)
it may have been evil,but its also a bit odd how jews in russia BEFORE ww2 murdered the aristocracy in russia,and took over the country,it was a little thing called COMMUNISM i believe,which killed way way more than the holocaust,80 million i think. -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011I thought you were going to make the (more valid imo) point that Israel was basically made as a country for Jewish asylum seekers.(Original post by pol pot noodles)
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Leaving aside racism or whatever, where is it assumed a country must take in everyone who turns up at their borders?
Israel would be within it's rights to close its borders tight from all foreign traffic.
It'd be stupid, but it is their right.
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011You may well be right but the problem you have is that the Holocaust is very relevant to almost everything Israel does. The concept of Israel and its existence now are all a result of a long history of antisemitism culminating in the Holocaust (though by no means ending with it). As a result, Israel is kind of founded on the principle that its primary objective above all else is to keep Jews safe and this dominates the worldview of Israelis and their leaders.(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
I'd say the limit is when it stops being relevant and starts becoming a 'card' to play.
Sometimes it will be relevant and necessary to raise, and sometimes it won't. For the times it isn't worthwhile, it's 'playing the X card'.
So I'd be interested to hear some situations where the Holocaust is irrelevant to a discussion regarding something Israel has done.
Now, before people go insane with "OMG the Holocaust doesn't justify everthing!!! ARGH!!!" (and assuming those people are still reading this far down) let me be clear. I'm not saying that the Holocaust or antisemitism makes any of Israel's choices correct. I'm only saying that it is necessary to always bear in mind the long history of antisemitism and the Holocaust when discussing and thinking about Israel's actions. For non-Jews it may be an event that happened a long time ago and is no longer relevant. But for Jews and Israeli Jews it is still extremely important and shapes the way they view the world. -
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Not really.(Original post by UniOfLife)
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011I have often thought Israel is a country that should have the support of others and yet by its actions in recent years has lost much of that support.
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Thanks for that extremely useful addition to the discussion. Its posts like yours that make TSR a useful resource and debating platform and not at all a place for idiots to just spout whatever nonsense pops in their heads at that moment their fingers are touching keys.(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011Well given that your nonsensical rambling after the comment I quoted didn't actually justify why exactly the Holocaust is 'relevent to almost everything Israel does', I'd argue there wasn't exactly much in the way of discussion anyway. All you did was say "the holocaust is like, waaaay important because it was a very big deal", which although true, doesn't particularly give any indication as to why it's relevant to almost 'all of Israel's activities'. It's much the same way India doesn't constantly refer to hundreds of years worth of oppression and colonial 'ownership'. On the contrary, India only refers to the rather brutal history of its ancestry when relevant. Something you fail to grasp seemingly because you're one of those 'must protect Israel's reputation at all cost' style forum members. Let me guess, am I 'deligitimising Israel'?(Original post by UniOfLife)
Thanks for that extremely useful addition to the discussion. Its posts like yours that make TSR a useful resource and debating platform and not at all a place for idiots to just spout whatever nonsense pops in their heads at that moment their fingers are touching keys.
I know how you guys love that line 
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011My point is that imagine if every other country had taken Israel's stance towards asylum seekers in the run up to and during the course of world war two. Hundreds of thousands of non-Jews risked their lives to save Jews from the holocaust yet just seventy years later Jews can't seem to find it within themselves to give anyone else fleeing persecution the time of the day.(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
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Re: State Dept: Israel approved only one asylum request in 2011I think the problem might lie with your inability either to read or comprehend written English. This may or may not be related to the high probability that you're on of those "Israel is like totally eveel and(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
Well given that your nonsensical rambling after the comment I quoted didn't actually justify why exactly the Holocaust is 'relevent to almost everything Israel does', I'd argue there wasn't exactly much in the way of discussion anyway. All you did was say "the holocaust is like, waaaay important because it was a very big deal", which although true, doesn't particularly give any indication as to why it's relevant to almost 'all of Israel's activities'. It's much the same way India doesn't constantly refer to hundreds of years worth of oppression and colonial 'ownership'. On the contrary, India only refers to the rather brutal history of its ancestry when relevant. Something you fail to grasp seemingly because you're one of those 'must protect Israel's reputation at all cost' style forum members. Let me guess, am I 'deligitimising Israel'? I know how you guys love that line
JewsZionists cause all the wars and control everyone and everything" style forum members.
Let me guess, am I 'shutting down debate'? I know how you guys love that line
