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Re: Black people and 'racism'I was talking about this case,(Original post by unclej)
it was adopted by jewish community and used with pride, other european teams such as bayern munich and ajax are jewish teams and they similarly use words such as yid and yid army and sport israel flags as a sense of pride.
not other cases or the history of the damn term.
I don't think you get it, maybe beacuse jewish slurs have been brushed under the carpet or the "n" word has exploded and exploited by both sides.
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Re: Black people and 'racism'I don't think he means it in the sense to call someone a N***a but to say the word in a different context, i.e to be actually able to say the name of the song N***as in Paris, because I know when I reference the song I say it without the 1st word, or when rapping along to a song to be able to say the word.(Original post by Nomes89)
All arguments that go along these lines just sound like you want to be 'allowed to be racist too' (not that black people necessarily are 'allowed' to be racist). Also why are black people being singled out? This is not just a black issue when you are talking about racism. With regards to the whole John Terry thing, anyone would find it offensive - racism isn't only offensive to black people and this isn't a black vs white issue. Also in this particular instance, we're talking about football...a sport which has seen a lot of racial abuse levelled particularly at black players from large groups of people. These are not isolated incidents. So obviously if you have a football player making such remarks in the midst of this sensitivity of course it will spark outrage. Like someone said, it's all about context. When have you seen crowds of people racially abusing any white sportsman ever?? That's right, you haven't. So for you to make such a comparison is quite frankly ridiculous and your intentioned lack of understanding and even resentment that this issue causes outrage speaks volumes.
Oh and investigations/uproar to racism against white people is very minute compared to when its a minority. -
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Re: Black people and 'racism'(Original post by blueray)
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Re: Black people and 'racism'To be honest, I don´t think saying ´Black C***´ is racist. It was an unecessary recognition of Ferdinand´s appearance - he is black, that is a fact. Saying the C word after it doesn´t make it any more racist, its just an ugly verbal assault.
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Re: Black people and 'racism'I don't really understand what you are saying.(Original post by Nomes89)
All arguments that go along these lines just sound like you want to be 'allowed to be racist too' (not that black people necessarily are 'allowed' to be racist). Also why are black people being singled out? This is not just a black issue when you are talking about racism. With regards to the whole John Terry thing, anyone would find it offensive - racism isn't only offensive to black people and this isn't a black vs white issue. Also in this particular instance, we're talking about football...a sport which has seen a lot of racial abuse levelled particularly at black players from large groups of people. These are not isolated incidents. So obviously if you have a football player making such remarks in the midst of this sensitivity of course it will spark outrage. Like someone said, it's all about context. When have you seen crowds of people racially abusing any white sportsman ever?? That's right, you haven't. So for you to make such a comparison is quite frankly ridiculous and your intentioned lack of understanding and even resentment that this issue causes outrage speaks volumes.
I pointed out an example of a black person saying a derogatory/racist remark about Jews. Why does that get swept under the carpet? I don't want 'to be allowed to be racist'. The only thing that annoys me about black people is that often I find that just like Frimpong, they'll ignorantly be racist themselves. I like equality, that's all. -
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Re: Black people and 'racism'This isn't a dissertation or something. Get a grip of yourself son.(Original post by Stilo)
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Re: Black people and 'racism'Blacks are very racist they don't protest against affirmative action schemes and disadvantage others. Remember in large part it was whites who brought down Jim Crow and immigration laws in white nations. So why don't blacks bring down affirmative action?
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Re: Black people and 'racism'Reminds me of a time some weeks ago when Gwyneth Paltrow posted a photo on Twitter where she was posed with a group of black singers and rappers (including Jay Z) in Paris and she captioned it "N**as in Paris for real". As a black person myself, I wasn't really offended as she obviously just meant it as a punny reference to their song (which I think is a quite dumb title for a song anyway but whatever). There was a lot of uproar from a lot of people, but we all know that would have been very different if she'd been a black person saying that. I dunno, people are a bit weird with their double standards.(Original post by Skill)
I mean, Jay Z and Kanye West just released a song called '****** in paris'. Does that mean anyone who isn't black is allowed to call black people *******? -
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If you don't have a problem with someone's race then that's just something you don't say.(Original post by Kiss)
To be honest, I don´t think saying ´Black C***´ is racist. It was an unecessary recognition of Ferdinand´s appearance - he is black, that is a fact. Saying the C word after it doesn´t make it any more racist, its just an ugly verbal assault. -
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Re: Black people and 'racism'Ferdinand is mixed raced, don't be a noob. Unless I'm imagining it the following women is clearly white and is the mother of the Ferdinands, so it looks like your assertion that Ferdinand is black is incorrect(Original post by Kiss)
To be honest, I don´t think saying ´Black C***´ is racist. It was an unecessary recognition of Ferdinand´s appearance - he is black, that is a fact. Saying the C word after it doesn´t make it any more racist, its just an ugly verbal assault.
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Re: Black people and 'racism'Most ''Blacks'' self-hate the true Negroid phenotype (nappy hair, wide nose) so they will attempt to redefine ''Black'' to include people who are mixed race. So for example most ''Blacks'' consider someone who is 1/4 Negroid but 3/4 Caucasoid (''white'') to be ''Black''. This way they can claim other racial traits are theirs - its a self-hatred you see on most forums and among most ''Blacks''.(Original post by Tsunami2011)
Ferdinand is mixed raced, don't be a noob. Unless I'm imagining it the following women is clearly white and is the mother of the Ferdinands, so it looks like your assertion that Ferdinand is black is incorrect
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Re: Black people and 'racism'What a load of tosh. You're trying to establish nonsense dichotomies that don't exist. There is one simple fact: black people go on and on and on about racism, but have no problem calling white people 'crackers' etc.(Original post by Theoneoranro)
If you think you can say n***** and black people shouldn't be offended by it, I can call you whatever racist insults to white people there are and you shouldn't be offended by it either.
Whenever a white person is racist to and ethnic minority person you're always like 'OMG OMG IT'S ONLY RACIST WHEN A WHITE PERSON DOES IT OMG OMG I'M A B*TCH OMG OMG' but whenever an ethnic minority person says something racist you're like 'WHY ARE YOU IN ENGLAND THEN WAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GONNA CRY LIKE A B*TCH NOW WAAAAA'. Either you stand up for no racism or you stand up for racism, you can't get mad when a non-white person is racist but then use excuses when a white person is racist.
Another example is this post, you're probably going to accuse me of being anti-white, but if you made the same post but replaced non-white with white and vice versa and I accused you of being racist, you would be like 'OMG HOW IS THAT RACIST OMG OMG SO IT'S ONLY RACIST WHEN A WHITE PERSON DOES IT OMG OMG I'M GOING TO GO TO THAT CORNER OVER THERE AND CRY LIKE A B*TCH'. And i'm only talking about dumb right wingers like you, not all white people.
I stand up for anti-racism, but the anti-racist movement should not be inherently racist by saying that racism against one group is more acceptable than racism against other groups. -
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Re: Black people and 'racism'(Original post by Pyramidologist)
Most ''Blacks'' self-hate the true Negroid phenotype (nappy hair, wide nose) so they will attempt to redefine ''Black'' to include people who are mixed race. So for example most ''Blacks'' consider someone who is 1/4 Negroid but 3/4 Caucasoid (''white'') to be ''Black''. This way they can claim other racial traits are theirs - its a self-hatred you see on most forums and among most ''Blacks''.
I personally do understand what people mean by double standards, with terms such as 'coon' 'bounty' '*****' being thrown about like water. If it's 'banter' then tbh I don't see why white people should be excluded from using such words. -
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Re: Black people and 'racism'I find it funny that black people like to moan about slavery in 2012.
If they were they bothered they would be doing something to help the people who are currently slaves around the world.
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Re: Black people and 'racism'(Original post by Tsunami2011)
Ferdinand is mixed raced, don't be a noob. Unless I'm imagining it the following women is clearly white and is the mother of the Ferdinands, so it looks like your assertion that Ferdinand is black is incorrect
Looks pretty black to me, your pedantic assertion that he´s not black is wrong
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Re: Black people and 'racism'Love how you assume every black person thinks they have a right to say that word.(Original post by Snagprophet)
As a white person I have just as much right to say n***** as a black person. Whether or not we both can say it or we both can't say it, that is a completely different matter.
Edit: Wow, what do you racists have against white people? There should be no special treatment, morons.
Anyway go out and say ****** in public then, better yet shout it from the rooftops. Then tell me what happens.
You're just a pathetic keyboard warrior.Last edited by Ice Constricter; 20-07-2012 at 00:29.
. Don´t be an annoying **** please 
